Simon Says Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Giants can save $13M against the cap if they traded him today. Obviously his contract is a BAD one and he had a bad year but Joe Judge and them boys made everyone look bad. He may be the best #3 outside WR in the league though. And the Giants may have to offload him for a 7th rounder in 2028. Did you bother to look at his salary and the Bills cap space? How the heck could they afford him? 46 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: What would we be on the hook for? In principle, yes, I'm interested. His salary is 13 million. Bills have about 5 available 33 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Except we don’t have “excellent” depth. You are entitled to your opinion but Bills cant afford him, and whose targets would he want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, ddaryl said: Why would we want demote Shakir? Who I view as WR3... He showed way to much to think there's an expensive upgrade on the downside that would play better. I would find ways to get Shakir more touches before blowing stupid money or draft picks on what I view as a downgrade. The "WR #3" designation is generic. Do you mean the #3 OUTSIDE WR? McKenzie and Crowder will likely be the #3 and 3A if you have to label them. I consider Crowder primarily a slot receiver and expect McKenzie to line up all over. Then ,some targets will go to Shakir and Cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Georgie said: The "WR #3" designation is generic. Do you mean the #3 OUTSIDE WR? McKenzie and Crowder will likely be the #3 and 3A if you have to label them. I consider Crowder primarily a slot receiver and expect McKenzie to line up all over. Then ,some targets will go to Shakir and Cook. McKenzie and Crowder are slots... Yeah so I guess by #3 I am thinking Outside Diggs and Davis reliever.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: This is very misleading. While it is true that the Giants would save $13M in cap space this season (despite $8.15M in dead cap), they’d also have to eat another $10.2M in dead cap next season. I have to think that it is worth $2.8M for them to see how he does with the new coaches. Even if he has a bad season, he will have another chance next year with a different QB. If they cut him based on those savings (assuming your math is right, which I have no reason to doubt), then I wonder if he’s a toxic attitude that we don’t want near our locker room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Kevin Benjamin 2.0, no thanks. That's just *****in' cold, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, gordong said: I rather pay Poyer and Knox I'd rather pay Oliver and Knox. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: But why though? Contract is bad, so it's a no from me. However, the why is obvious. Huge body/catch radius high pointing, red zone target. A WR type we don't have (hodgins possibly). The why is easy. The enormous cons are: health and salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I will hate him because of fantasy last year. Plus everything I have heard is he sucks in camp this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 This is such a random thought, like you are just throwing darts at a dartboard with players on it and whatever one you hit you make a post about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Unless he is a sanctified Special Teams Ace > 33 years old, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Georgie said: Did you bother to look at his salary and the Bills cap space? How the heck could they afford him? His salary is 13 million. Bills have about 5 available You are entitled to your opinion but Bills cant afford him, and whose targets would he want? If we are on the hook for $13m then we can't afford him. He'd have to be willing to re-do the deal before the Giants trade him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Giants can save $13M against the cap if they traded him today. Obviously his contract is a BAD one and he had a bad year but Joe Judge and them boys made everyone look bad. He may be the best #3 outside WR in the league though. And the Giants may have to offload him for a 7th rounder in 2028. Why do you want save the Giants money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I'm not opposed to the Bills looking for ways to stockpile WR's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Hasn’t Goladay been kind of a disappointment for the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 OBJ or no one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I am probably one of Gollodays biggest fans. But Gettleman gave him a ridiculous contract considering his injury history. He’s going to need a 1 year prove it deal when he’s done in jersey after his last couple years of injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 This thread is on par for the posters course. 💩 40 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Gives you flexibility to put Diggs in the slot… if it moves McKenzie/Crowder to the bench on a team destined for the SB that just made itself much better with the trade, what is the problem? That being said, I can’t see this happening. Because Beane isn’t an idiot 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, FireChans said: Giants can save $13M against the cap if they traded him today. Obviously his contract is a BAD one and he had a bad year but Joe Judge and them boys made everyone look bad. He may be the best #3 outside WR in the league though. And the Giants may have to offload him for a 7th rounder in 2028. "Could they fit ....?" is almost never the right question. They "could" fit nearly anyone, with consequences hurting them down the road, major consequences in the case of Golladay. The right question to ask is generally, "Should they fit ...?" In the case of Golladay I think the answer is hell no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: If they cut him based on those savings (assuming your math is right, which I have no reason to doubt), then I wonder if he’s a toxic attitude that we don’t want near our locker room. Definitely would be a concern. I added the Spotrac link to my post. Forgot to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ddaryl said: McKenzie and Crowder are slots... Yeah so I guess by #3 I am thinking Outside Diggs and Davis reliever.. McKenzie and Crowder are slots ... both of whom can play outside. Crowder in particular has done so a bunch in the past. I personally expect Shakir to be the most frequent #3 outside guy late in the year, but early I think it'll be a mix-up of Crowder, McKenzie, Shakir and even Kumerow sometimes giving them a lot of different talent options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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