Deshaun Watson to be suspended 11 games via settlement

[Milanos Milano]

Just now, Bruffalo said:

Again, the fact that he had sex with a bunch of women isn't the problem.  There's no cultural enlightenment to be had here. 

I know that, but go travel to some far off places and you will know precisely what I’m talking about. 

[The Wiz]

4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I’m done talking about it because it is useless to do so, but the more you travel you see some very out there stuff that makes America seem conservative by nature. By our standards Watson should absolutely be punished, pretty sure we are all in agreement there. My only point was to discuss at how different places perceive these things. 

That's perfectly fine that different places perceive things differently.  You probably could have made your case a little better is all instead of comparing it to how some things are acceptable in other countries that we are "conservative" against.  

Edited August 18, 2022 by The Wiz

[Simon]

Just now, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

What does this threat mean?

 

It means the same thing as when you were told to stop trashing a particular thread last season, refused to do so and got suspended for it.

 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, The Wiz said:

That's perfectly fine that different places perceive things differently.  You probably could have made your case a little better is all instead of comparing it to how some things are acceptable in other countries that we are "conservative" against.  

I’m truly sorry, my intentions were not to belittle this topic but only to view things from other lenses. 

[WotAGuy]

Just now, Simon said:

 

It means the same thing as when you were told to stop trashing a particular thread last season, refused to do so and got suspended for it.

 

If you traveled to some far off places, you’d see that’s not how they handle things. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

1 hour ago, Greg S said:

 

This potential Josh vs Josh competition would be like racing a Porsche against a bicycle.

A bicycle that has no passion for being a bicycle

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I know that, but go travel to some far off places and you will know precisely what I’m talking about. 

Consent is the issue, and if you're saying those places don't care about that then I don't see why we'd care to emulate that.

Edited August 18, 2022 by Warcodered

[BillsfaninSB]

The Browns could have picked Malik Willis in the 3rd round, trade Baker and get Brissett or jimmy G as a bridge and avoided all of this. 

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I know that, but go travel to some far off places and you will know precisely what I’m talking about. 

 

Remember when I suggested you not keep it up?

And then you said "I'm done talking about it"

And then you kept right on going?

 

[Milanos Milano]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Consent is the damn issue, and if you're saying those places don't care about that then I don't see why we'd care to emulate that.

Soft consent vs hard consent is real. Or at least it was for the places I’ve been. I couldn’t believe how some things were so casual and I had to do double takes at times. 

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

Remember when I suggested you not keep it up?

And then you said "I'm done talking about it"

And then you kept right on going?

 

Ok I’m done, I’ve said what I’ve said. 

[RoyBatty is alive]

12 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

and even if he was… it would still be wrong.

I don' t disagree but poster wasn't trying to make a societal difference "defense".

[Jauronimo]

4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I’m done talking about it because it is useless to do so, but the more you travel you see some very out there stuff that makes America seem conservative by nature. By our standards Watson should absolutely be punished, pretty sure we are all in agreement there. My only point was to discuss at how different places perceive these things. 

I appreciate the assumption that I have not been anywhere, but actually I have spent a decent amount of time abroad and much of my friend group are international.  The fact that in some areas of the world, marginalized women are subject to sexual assault and have such little recourse to the point that its "accepted" is not much of a point.  

[WotAGuy]

4 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Soft consent vs hard consent is real. Or at least it was for the places I’ve been. I couldn’t believe how some things were so casual and I had to do double takes at times. 

This is an excerpt from an old Penthouse Forum isn’t it?

Edited August 18, 2022 by WotAGuy

[RoyBatty is alive]

6 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I know that, but go travel to some far off places and you will know precisely what I’m talking about. 

we get it already, let it go

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I know that, but go travel to some far off places and you will know precisely what I’m talking about. 

I'm trying to boil down exactly what you're saying here, because it doesn't make sense.

 

You're talking about sex clubs and brothels, which can and are protected, licensed, etc... in much of the world.  Even if you frequent a place like that, there are still consent rules.  You can't just do whatever you want without a sex worker's consent.

 

Now if you're saying that there are sex trafficked people who lack the ability to consent, yes that's true and equally abhorrent to what Deshaun Watson did, from an objective standpoint.  There's no amount of cultural equivalency argument that changes that.  

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Soft consent vs hard consent is real. Or at least it was for the places I’ve been. I couldn’t believe how some things were so casual and I had to do double takes at times. 

Ok I’m done, I’ve said what I’ve said. 

 

Dennis is not a good person.

 

 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Warcodered said:

So if Brissett gets injured before week 11 we could get Josh vs. Josh?

Knowing the browns they’ll sign Johnny Manziel.

[RoyBatty is alive]

9 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said:

What does this threat mean?

You cant get it? Seriously?  

 

You should be hired by the Browns PR department.

[Bruffalo]

4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Soft consent vs hard consent is real. Or at least it was for the places I’ve been. I couldn’t believe how some things were so casual and I had to do double takes at times. 

"Women didn't feel empowered enough to stop men from sexually assaulting them in a lot of places I've been, America could learn a thing or two." 

[RoyBatty is alive]

I put the over/under life span on this thread at 15 minutes.