billsfan_34 Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 15 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: I keep reading these reports and I’m not buying it (yet). The Pats are designed to operate a heavy formation against nickle defenses. They should be able to find a baseline amount of success with what they’re doing and I still expect them to compete most weeks. But I sure hope I’m wrong and the bottom falls out and Billy B calls it a career. And we play one of the best nickels if not the best on the league along with a high octane offense that can keep the other offense off the field. I like our chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 James White, RB for three of the Superbowls, retired as well. https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-rb-james-white-retiring-after-eight-seasons-in-nfl One less weapon, even if at this point in his career may be backup, of Pat(hetic)s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-qb-mac-jones-most-starters-won-t-play-preseason-opener-versus-giants Interesting that the Pats* won't be playing Jones, or most of their starters in the first preseason game. I kind of understand Jones not playing-- plenty of starting QBs won't be playing in their first preseason game-- but The Pats* are installing a new offensive scheme, and reports indicate that their offense hasn't had a single good showing vs. their own D in TC. Are they not ready to put these new concepts to the test in a preseason game for a series, or two? This is what preseason is for. Daniel Jones is going to play, as are most of the Giants starters (according to Brian Daboll). Trevor Lawrence, Mayfield, Darnold, Zach Wilson-- all playing. Does not bode well for Patriot* Nation, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Beast said: Are they still "well coached"? Because, you know, the supposed best HC in NFL history has coached over 150 games without Tom Brady as his QB and he is sub .500 in those 150 plus games. Just like Phil Jackson was a genius when he had Michael Jordan on his roster, though Phil had a much better winning percentage without the best of all-time on his roster. You can say what you want about Brady and the offense, but Bill Belichick has taken at times some downright poor talent on defense and gotten them to play respectably. He has always been a very good defensive coach. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, MJS said: You can say what you want about Brady and the offense, but Bill Belichick has taken at times some downright poor talent on defense and gotten them to play respectably. He has always been a very good defensive coach. I'm not saying he hasn't been a good defensive coach. That is not debatable. I believe he is extremely overrated as a HC. He was fortunate. Much in the same way Marv Levy was fortunate. The Head Coaches that have had success at multiple locations with multiple core players are the coaches I have the most respect for. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-qb-mac-jones-most-starters-won-t-play-preseason-opener-versus-giants Interesting that the Pats* won't be playing Jones, or most of their starters in the first preseason game. I kind of understand Jones not playing-- plenty of starting QBs won't be playing in their first preseason game-- but The Pats* are installing a new offensive scheme, and reports indicate that their offense hasn't had a single good showing vs. their own D in TC. Are they not ready to put these new concepts to the test in a preseason game for a series, or two? This is what preseason is for. Daniel Jones is going to play, as are most of the Giants starters (according to Brian Daboll). Trevor Lawrence, Mayfield, Darnold, Zach Wilson-- all playing. Does not bode well for Patriot* Nation, IMO. Daniel Jones has to play they have to figure out once and for all if he's the guy. This season will determine his future as a starting QB in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said: https://www.nfl.com/news/patriots-qb-mac-jones-most-starters-won-t-play-preseason-opener-versus-giants Interesting that the Pats* won't be playing Jones, or most of their starters in the first preseason game. I kind of understand Jones not playing-- plenty of starting QBs won't be playing in their first preseason game-- but The Pats* are installing a new offensive scheme, and reports indicate that their offense hasn't had a single good showing vs. their own D in TC. Are they not ready to put these new concepts to the test in a preseason game for a series, or two? This is what preseason is for. Daniel Jones is going to play, as are most of the Giants starters (according to Brian Daboll). Trevor Lawrence, Mayfield, Darnold, Zach Wilson-- all playing. Does not bode well for Patriot* Nation, IMO. I don't understand it. They need as much practice together as they can get. They have a new OC who has never been an OC before and hasn't coached on offense in 17 years, who will also be their OL coach. But hey, good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Tell ya what - the Patriots will probably still be competitive, but I don't think I've ever seen a less talented team I'd say that about. It's because of one thing, the coach. He'll hold it together w/ spit & glue like he always does, and figure out how to keep them in enough games for a respectable record. Once he retires, New England is officially done for a few decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 It’s so weird to me that they couldn’t find a competent OC. Beleicheat has been around forever, does he really have no connection that was willing to take the job? It’s almost like he doesn’t trust anyone outside his usual circle of assistants. But Matt Patricia? Seriously? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: I don't understand it. They need as much practice together as they can get. They have a new OC who has never been an OC before and hasn't coached on offense in 17 years, who will also be their OL coach. But hey, good. Yep. Given that a) the Patriots are installing a new offensive scheme, b) this is Patricia's first stint as an OC, or offensive play-caller, c) Mac & Cheese is going into only his second season, and d) by all credible accounts, the Patriots' offense has struggled mightily in training camp... not playing the starters very much feels like an offense that is not ready for television. 34 minutes ago, Success said: Tell ya what - the Patriots will probably still be competitive, but I don't think I've ever seen a less talented team I'd say that about. It's because of one thing, the coach. He'll hold it together w/ spit & glue like he always does, and figure out how to keep them in enough games for a respectable record. Once he retires, New England is officially done for a few decades. If Belichick* retired tomorrow, he would be leaving the Patriots* organization a shambles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 19 hours ago, wppete said: Losing McDaniels to the Raiders was the biggest blow to NE. It was because of Belichek's age and ago have both tremendously advanced since Josh first left and the Evil Overlord doesnt want to admit either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I saw this on Facebook. I deadass thought it was satire. Like no human being would actually say this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Watching the pats vs giants now. Daboll looks like he’s gained 40 lbs. He’s heading for trouble. Must be pushing 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 It's continuing. https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/roundup-reaction-patriots-rough-joint-practice-against-raiders 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Oh no. Anyway…. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 You just hate to see it. The playoff game exposed that team for what it was. A very good defensive team and a very, very bad offensive team. Mac Jones is a seemingly nice guy that is in no way going to put the team on his back. Mediocre at best. It’s tough for me to say that a Pats quarterback is a nice guy, but he does seem to be one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: Oh no. Anyway…. . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 They can always run the ball like 55 times per game 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 maybe they're hoping every game they play next year has severe winds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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