1ManRaid Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said: I would argue that if Trubisky truly did turn the corner that Daboll would have brought him with him to the Giants. People forget that free agents have to agree to sign with a team. Every year we get threads about "why didn't we just get this guy" like they were a dollar bill sitting in the street to be scooped up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, Simon said: I've lived in Western PA for most of the last 30 years. And Tomlin has already said that every QB will be running with every group and that the rotation means nothing. Ben's game had been disintegrating before our eyes for years and he was downright awful last season. Nobody wanted him back and I seriously doubt that any comparisons to Roethlisberger will carry any weight outside of people who want to sell newspapers. Ben is a Steelers' legend. But the past 2-3 years he was barely hanging on. Steeler fans know that--at least the smart ones. He'll be given a good opportunity by the fans. If he can survive their OL Mitch might have a chance to be a fairly decent QB. IMO he's a far better bet than Mayfield. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Victory Formation said: I would argue that if Trubisky truly did turn the corner that Daboll would have brought him with him to the Giants. I don’t get the negativity? It seems fair to say that if Daboll loved Trubisky, he’d be a giant…. why not? seems like a gimme to me… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: I don’t get the negativity? It seems fair to say that if Daboll loved Trubisky, he’d be a giant…. why not? seems like a gimme to me… Because as I said, Mitch has to agree to go there. Others have said Daboll did try to sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Tell that to the many Steeler fans I know. Also, it's easier to say that now. If the team struggles because of QB play it will become more of a problem. Pickett is also already taking reps with the 2s. I probably don't know as many as you but the ones I know were more than ready to move on from Ben. 2 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 All I read is he liked the bills offensive philosophy better than what he encountered in the past. Don’t think there is anything more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Dean said: Ben is a Steelers' legend. But the past 2-3 years he was barely hanging on. Steeler fans know that--at least the smart ones. He'll be given a good opportunity by the fans. If he can survive their OL Mitch might have a chance to be a fairly decent QB. IMO he's a far better bet than Mayfield. The relative inattention to the QB position for BenR's successor is surprising for an organization as well run as the Steelers. As with any team privileged to have a long time franchise QB, the time to draft a potential replacement is a couple of years before the starter's projected decline. if the incumbent plays on for much longer than expected, trade the young gun. If the oldie's performance drops off too fast, you have already got a trainee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Dean said: Ben is a Steelers' legend. But the past 2-3 years he was barely hanging on. Steeler fans know that--at least the smart ones. He'll be given a good opportunity by the fans. If he can survive their OL Mitch might have a chance to be a fairly decent QB. IMO he's a far better bet than Mayfield. 2 years ago, the decaying Ben had a better season than Trubisky ever had. Trubisky's legend here began with the cup of coffee he had in Buffalo... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: I think we are going to learn a lot about how valuable (or invaluable) Daboll was to JA17's development and this offense in the coming months. Because if Allen has any type of regression it will be easy to say it's because of Daboll's absence. Conversely if Daboll makes Daniel Jones look decent and the Giants surprise people this year he'll be considered a genius. Josh made Daboll. This will be evident shortly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: I probably don't know as many as you but the ones I know were more than ready to move on from Ben. 2 years ago. And like I said before, it's easy to feel that way until the new QB you have stinks up the place and you start losing because of it. Ready to move on? Sure. Ready to deal with a full season of Duck Hodges like performances? Probably not. One thing that fanbase is is spoiled. It won't take long for the knives to come out for any new QB, particularly with a popular high draft pick waiting in the wings, which was my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Victory Formation said: I would argue that if Trubisky truly did turn the corner that Daboll would have brought him with him to the Giants. I think your thought process is logical, but the Giants are in salary cap trouble in a big way. Also, the owner may have wanted to run the course with Jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, billybrew1 said: I don’t get the negativity? It seems fair to say that if Daboll loved Trubisky, he’d be a giant…. why not? seems like a gimme to me… 1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said: Because as I said, Mitch has to agree to go there. Others have said Daboll did try to sign him. Apparently some people don't understand it takes BOTH sides to get a deal done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: 2 years ago, the decaying Ben had a better season than Trubisky ever had. Trubisky's legend here began with the cup of coffee he had in Buffalo... Suggesting that Trubisky is a minimally better option than the last we saw of Roethlisberger, a rookie or Mason Rudolph is hardly conferring "legend" status upon him. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Dabs was a product of Allen more than Allen was a product of Dabs, that and the Giants for all intent and purpose don’t have a QB, Daniel Jones Is no Josh Allen. I think Dabs had a lot to do with Allen's maturation as a QB. But I also think, where Allen is now, he'll be fine with Dorsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: I think Dabs had a lot to do with Allen's maturation as a QB. But I also think, where Allen is now, he'll be fine with Dorsey. I think Josh's own work ethic and Jordan Palmer's offseason coaching had WAY more to do with it than Daboll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Well, being that the Giants new GM, didn’t pick up his fifth year option, I’m not so certain they are “high” on him, Jones had better turn his game around or he will be looking for new employment as a backup somewhere, jmo. They saw what happened to the Panthers with Darnold. It was a no brainer decision as it's a "win win" for them. Either they find their franchise QB in Jones or they draft one next year in a QB rich draft. 4 hours ago, Don Otreply said: Or Mitch smartly didn’t want to play in a Giants organization that will likely take three seasons to become competitive league wide…, Steelers or Giants, given the choice, The Steelers all day every day, I'm interested to see how he performs in Canada's offensive scheme as a slow Big Ben and a poor offensive line limited the playbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Simon said: Despite the media's insistence on pushing another narrative, Stiller fans were done with Roethlisberger well before he retired and following him is not likely to be an issue in the short term. They also seem to recognize that Pickett is likely nothing but the #3 guy this year. Mitch is competing with Mason Rudolph for the starting spot and will likely beat him out. imo, Trubisky's biggest worry is probably surviving behind an abysmal offensive line. Trubisky has at least had first hand experience playing behind a sub-par line and seeing Josh Allen adjust for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) Cool article, thanks for sharing. Rooting for Mitch. Chicago's kind of been a mess for awhile, and he's a still a who knows with a good attitude and mental in my book. Regarding missing Daboll, I'm hoping that Dorsey just follows his lead but lets it fly even a little more loose since his role is new and Allen's really assuming control. Why wouldn't the Daboll philosophy persist? There's no way he takes the offense in some kind of strange new direction. Edited August 2, 2022 by Nelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Simon said: Despite the media's insistence on pushing another narrative, Stiller fans were done with Roethlisberger well before he retired and following him is not likely to be an issue in the short term. They also seem to recognize that Pickett is likely nothing but the #3 guy this year. Mitch is competing with Mason Rudolph for the starting spot and will likely beat him out. imo, Trubisky's biggest worry is probably surviving behind an abysmal offensive line. Yep, the Steelers are in a brutal division and it’s not an organization (or fanbase) that will accept a 4-13 rebuilding season under a rookie QB. Mitch has played in the league for five years and he’s won a lot of games. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t start every game that he’s healthy. Edited August 2, 2022 by mannc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Victory Formation said: I would argue that if Trubisky truly did turn the corner that Daboll would have brought him with him to the Giants. If you're Brian Daboll and the Giants, you're probably going to want to see what Daniel Jones can do in Year 4 and under them, after the investment the team spent on him. And to truly do that, you don't want him looking over his shoulder knowing that the new coach brought his own guy in. He either puts it together or (more likely) Daboll and Schoen pick their guy in next year's Draft. And on the flip side, if you're Mitch Trubisky - would you rather go to a team to compete in the Giants or go to a team that you're going to be handed the starting job this year in the Steelers? Edited August 2, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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