The Real Buffalo Joe Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Let me start my question by saying I’m sure there’s a rule against this, but in my few Google searches, I found nothing. Let’s take the Detroit Lions for example. Owned by the Ford family, the same family that owns Ford Motor Company. Lets say there’s a free agent asking to $15 million. Their salary cap will only be able to pay him $10. What’s stopping them from saying in the negotiation room “While we can’t pay you the amount you’re looking for, you’re gonna find Detroit a fine place to live, and more endorsement deals than the other markets,” with the implication being that Ford will sign him to an endorsement deal worth that $5 he was looking for? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Let me start my question by saying I’m sure there’s a rule against this, but in my few Google searches, I found nothing. Let’s take the Detroit Lions for example. Owned by the Ford family, the same family that owns Ford Motor Company. Lets say there’s a free agent asking to $15 million. Their salary cap will only be able to pay him $10. What’s stopping them from saying in the negotiation room “While we can’t pay you the amount you’re looking for, you’re gonna find Detroit a fine place to live, and more endorsement deals than the other markets,” with the implication being that Ford will sign him to an endorsement deal worth that $5 he was looking for? Not to be an smartass which is my usual posting style, but what you suggest is a definite stretch. Don't think it would work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of a K-Gun Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Two glaring things wrong with your post. 1) Detroit is a fine place to live. 2) Ford family willing to spend money. 3 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Let me start my question by saying I’m sure there’s a rule against this, but in my few Google searches, I found nothing. Let’s take the Detroit Lions for example. Owned by the Ford family, the same family that owns Ford Motor Company. Lets say there’s a free agent asking to $15 million. Their salary cap will only be able to pay him $10. What’s stopping them from saying in the negotiation room “While we can’t pay you the amount you’re looking for, you’re gonna find Detroit a fine place to live, and more endorsement deals than the other markets,” with the implication being that Ford will sign him to an endorsement deal worth that $5 he was looking for? Lol well they may as well close the meeting room door and simply offer him a bag of cash under the table. I guess that’s a possibility as well huh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Draconator said: Not to be an smartass which is my usual posting style, but what you suggest is a definite stretch. Don't think it would work. Weren’t there rumors that Wayne Huizenga (owner of Blockbuster Video, Waste Management, etc) got Dan Marino in on some IPO’s and other stuff as a way of raising his compensation? I have no idea if that was true, but I’m pretty sure I heard it. In the current cap environment I’m sure the league would find a way to crush that today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Weren’t there rumors that Wayne Huizenga (owner of Blockbuster Video, Waste Management, etc) got Dan Marino in on some IPO’s and other stuff as a way of raising his compensation? I have no idea if that was true, but I’m pretty sure I heard it. In the current cap environment I’m sure the league would find a way to crush that today. Yeah. The league is pretty far reaching on that type of stuff (would be my guess) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I can see Ed Oliver signing cheap and getting a lucrative PSE contract as a country music star. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I'm pretty sure non-salary compensation is illegal for NFL players. Otherwise, Terry Pegula could hire Josh Allen as a $100 Million per year janitor for Pegula Sports & Entertainment and then Beane would sign him to the vet minimum to free up cap room. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 You are allowed to do that if you call it TB12 Sports Therapy Center 6 3 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 The Pats* did something like this for years with Brady. They always paid him well below market value and then funneled money into a company he owed to make up the difference. Can't remember the specifics about the arrangement, but this has been talked about for years with Brady. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, StHustle said: Lol well they may as well close the meeting room door and simply offer him a bag of cash under the table. I guess that’s a possibility as well huh It’s likely happened at some point in the past…, 😁👍 See the post above, Brady/Kraft/Patriots, not that they have ever cheated or the like…, Edited July 30, 2022 by Don Otreply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: I can see Ed Oliver signing cheap and getting a lucrative PSE contract as a country music star. Thought you were going to suggest, he'd find an abandoned horse outside his back door. 34 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: I'm pretty sure non-salary compensation is illegal for NFL players. Otherwise, Terry Pegula could hire Josh Allen as a $100 Million per year janitor for Pegula Sports & Entertainment and then Beane would sign him to the vet minimum to free up cap room. Come on, this isn't the NCAA! Edited July 30, 2022 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: I'm pretty sure non-salary compensation is illegal for NFL players. Otherwise, Terry Pegula could hire Josh Allen as a $100 Million per year janitor for Pegula Sports & Entertainment and then Beane would sign him to the vet minimum to free up cap room. To be fair, I would probably want that much money to clean up after those guys also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Let me start my question by saying I’m sure there’s a rule against this, but in my few Google searches, I found nothing. Let’s take the Detroit Lions for example. Owned by the Ford family, the same family that owns Ford Motor Company. Lets say there’s a free agent asking to $15 million. Their salary cap will only be able to pay him $10. What’s stopping them from saying in the negotiation room “While we can’t pay you the amount you’re looking for, you’re gonna find Detroit a fine place to live, and more endorsement deals than the other markets,” with the implication being that Ford will sign him to an endorsement deal worth that $5 he was looking for? Dude, the Ford family doesn't own the Ford Motor Company... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Isn't that kinda what Kraft did with Brady, using his company TB12 to funnel money to for some random deals through that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 54 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Dude, the Ford family doesn't own the Ford Motor Company... No, but one of them is the largest shareholder. His sister owns the Lions. https://www.langdaleford.com/blog/who-owns-ford-motor-company/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Ford_Hamp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, WhoTom said: No, but one of them is the largest shareholder. His sister owns the Lions. https://www.langdaleford.com/blog/who-owns-ford-motor-company/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Ford_Hamp Correct, a shareholder. The shareholders all own the FMC. The family can't decide to give a Lions player money for FMC endorsements.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 hours ago, StHustle said: Lol well they may as well close the meeting room door and simply offer him a bag of cash under the table. I guess that’s a possibility as well huh When the Bengals tried this…it didn’t work…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Let me start my question by saying I’m sure there’s a rule against this, but in my few Google searches, I found nothing. Let’s take the Detroit Lions for example. Owned by the Ford family, the same family that owns Ford Motor Company. Lets say there’s a free agent asking to $15 million. Their salary cap will only be able to pay him $10. What’s stopping them from saying in the negotiation room “While we can’t pay you the amount you’re looking for, you’re gonna find Detroit a fine place to live, and more endorsement deals than the other markets,” with the implication being that Ford will sign him to an endorsement deal worth that $5 he was looking for? I have thought the same for years. I needed someone like you, with lucid insight and a keen awareness, to define this loophole. Thanks TRBJ!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Correct, a shareholder. The shareholders all own the FMC. The family can't decide to give a Lions player money for FMC endorsements.... William Clay Ford Jr is the Executive Chair of Ford’s Board of Directors. While he doesn’t have an appreciable number of shares (3,868), he undoubtedly holds an enormous amount of sway within the Ford corporation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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