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22 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


Criticizing law enforcement is fine. 
 

Publishing the names of specific officers you are calling corrupt the day after one of your supporters attacked an FBI office is both asking for violence and absolutely disgusting. 

I never said I supported those actions…I just said I could why people would be skeptical of a federal agency that has PROVEN to be corrupt several times in recent history…

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3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

I never said I supported those actions…I just said I could why people would be skeptical of a federal agency that has PROVEN to be corrupt several times in recent history…

Which agency? The FBI? The DOJ? The federal court system? 

 

You don't seem critical of Trump who has PROVEN to be corrupt. 

 

You people 

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6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

I never said I supported those actions…I just said I could why people would be skeptical of a federal agency that has PROVEN to be corrupt several times in recent history…


Aside from the two (of four) Carter Page FISA warrants that we’re found to lack predication, what other proof is there of corruption of the FBI?

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Which agency? The FBI? The DOJ? The federal court system? 

 

You don't seem critical of Trump who has PROVEN to be corrupt. 

 

You people 

FBI…

 

Trump has been mostly accused of things, but never really proven guilty…

 

And even the things he has been accused of, the Left has done those very things they accuse Trump of…

 

I want consistency under the law…

 

If Trump goes to jail, then so should Hillary and Biden at the very least…

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4 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

FBI…

 

Trump has been mostly accused of things, but never really proven guilty…

 

And even the things he has been accused of, the Left has done those very things they accuse Trump of…

 

I want consistency under the law…

 

If Trump goes to jail, then so should Hillary and Biden at the very least…

Well they get checked by DOJ, the courts and the media so...

 

No, Trump is a criminal, but Hillary and Biden are not. See how that works? 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Well they get checked by DOJ, the courts and the media so...

 

No, Trump is a criminal, but Hillary and Biden are not. See how that works? 

 

 

While I do not know all of Trumps actions, it may be true that down the line he may be proven to have committed a crime…

 

However, I disagree with that last statement…Hillary and Biden have been proven to have committed crimes, and have been protected by the Feds and media for years…Hillary with Benghazi and her emails, and Joe with his blackmailing of Ukraine to monetarily benefit him and his family…

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2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

While I do not know all of Trumps actions, it may be true that down the line he may be proven to have committed a crime…

 

However, I disagree with that last statement…Hillary and Biden have been proven to have committed crimes, and have been protected by the Feds and media for years…Hillary with Benghazi and her emails, and Joe with his blackmailing of Ukraine to monetarily benefit him and his family…

Bull sh it 

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3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

While I do not know all of Trumps actions, it may be true that down the line he may be proven to have committed a crime…

 

However, I disagree with that last statement…Hillary and Biden have been proven to have committed crimes, and have been protected by the Feds and media for years…Hillary with Benghazi and her emails, and Joe with his blackmailing of Ukraine to monetarily benefit him and his family…


What crimes have Biden and Hillary been proven to have committed? 

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3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Bull sh it 

If you follow media other than establishment news,  you would know this to be true…

 

FBI Director Comey even gave a press conference on all the criminal things Hillary did- but then said they chose not to charge her because “he” didn’t think a prosecutor would take the case…Lol

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3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

If you follow media other than establishment news,  you would know this to be true…


You do know that the whole Biden - Ukraine thing is false, right?

 

The prosecutor in question was pro-corruption, was not investigating Hunter, and removing him was not just US policy, but supported by our European allies. 

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13 hours ago, Niagara Bill said:

Ghetto is not disrespectful. It accurately describes the policies of government that have created the class system, particularly the left. Give aways created this class, but your class must now have policies that undo the past 75 years of food stamps. The US is a very socialist country and the divide must be bridged, but you and trump will never be capable. 

Like you I do not do drugs, not even pot,  but your 1/6 folks may, or maybe moonshine.

In any regards Lenny, move off all the right wing nonsense and do something to unite. 


Whatever you’re going through, prayers up. This too shall pass. 

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18 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


You do know that the whole Biden - Ukraine thing is false, right?

 

The prosecutor in question was pro-corruption, was not investigating Hunter, and removing him was not just US policy, but supported by our European allies. 

That’s the Establishment narrative…And the Establishment stretches across the entire West, not just America…

 

In 2015 The Guardian rated Ukraine the most corrupt nation in Europe…https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

 

That was roughly the same time the prosecutor was investigating corruption in the country, including Burisma, where Hunter Biden was on the Board (without any knowledge of the oil industry, I might add)

 


Biden withholding the money wasn’t because the prosecutor was “pro corruption”, as the Establishment would want us to believe…But rather because an investigation by the prosecutor posed a threat to the business dealings that the Bidens, and the Western Establishment, in general, had going on in a corrupt Ukraine…

 

 

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Victor Davis Hanson On Trump Raid: ‘The FBI is Beyond Redemption’

by Mike LaChance

 

The writer and historian Victor Davis Hanson is one of the most serious thinkers of our time. When he says something, people should listen. Following the raid on Trump’s Florida home, Hanson is saying that the FBI is beyond redemption. That it cannot and should not be saved in its current form. To hear Hanson saying this should alarm people. He is not the type of man who engages in outrageous talk. 

 

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/08/victor-davis-hanson-trump-raid-fbi-beyond-redemption-video/

 

 

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14 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

That’s the Establishment narrative…And the Establishment stretches across the entire West, not just America…

 

In 2015 The Guardian rated Ukraine the most corrupt nation in Europe…https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

 

That was roughly the same time the prosecutor was investigating corruption in the country, including Burisma, where Hunter Biden was on the Board (without any knowledge of the oil industry, I might add)

 


Biden withholding the money wasn’t because the prosecutor was “pro corruption”, as the Establishment would want us to believe…But rather because an investigation by the prosecutor posed a threat to the business dealings that the Bidens, and the Western Establishment, in general, had going on in a corrupt Ukraine…

 

 

 

You can keep showing this video...

 

And they'll keep telling you but that's different. 

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14 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

That’s the Establishment narrative…And the Establishment stretches across the entire West, not just America…

 

In 2015 The Guardian rated Ukraine the most corrupt nation in Europe…https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

 

That was roughly the same time the prosecutor was investigating corruption in the country, including Burisma, where Hunter Biden was on the Board (without any knowledge of the oil industry, I might add)

 


Biden withholding the money wasn’t because the prosecutor was “pro corruption”, as the Establishment would want us to believe…But rather because an investigation by the prosecutor posed a threat to the business dealings that the Bidens, and the Western Establishment, in general, had going on in a corrupt Ukraine…

 

 


It’s the establishment narrative because it’s the truth. You are taking small bits of facts (Biden got the prosecutor fired and Hunter worked for Burisma) and connecting them with falsehoods. 
 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/
 

Ukraine had a ton of corruption but their prosecutor wasn’t doing much about it. The Obama administration and our European Allie’s wanted Shokin gone so that someone could come in and actually prosecute corruption. 
 

At that time, Hunter was not under investigation so removing the prosecutor would have no impact on him. If anything, it would increase the chances he would be investigated. 
 

Hunter seems like a real piece of crap,  and if he broke the law he should pay for it, but this narrative about the Ukrainian prosecutor has no basis in reality. 

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7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

That’s the Establishment narrative…And the Establishment stretches across the entire West, not just America…

 

In 2015 The Guardian rated Ukraine the most corrupt nation in Europe…https://amp.theguardian.com/news/2015/feb/04/welcome-to-the-most-corrupt-nation-in-europe-ukraine

 

That was roughly the same time the prosecutor was investigating corruption in the country, including Burisma, where Hunter Biden was on the Board (without any knowledge of the oil industry, I might add)

 


Biden withholding the money wasn’t because the prosecutor was “pro corruption”, as the Establishment would want us to believe…But rather because an investigation by the prosecutor posed a threat to the business dealings that the Bidens, and the Western Establishment, in general, had going on in a corrupt Ukraine…

 

 

Ja, I don’t recall folks suggesting what Biden did was criminal, or impeachment-worthy.  The argument imo is that while Trump was being hounded for all sorts of issues that were reported on a second or third hand basis (something that continues to this day), Biden oafishly brags about shaking down an ally to bend them to his will.   The larger point was that what happens everyday in Washington establishment circles suddenly became a major national crisis that stunned insiders. 
 

I agree with you about the establishment version of Biden’s actions, and the preposterous take that his son and his good fortune were completely incidental to the big picture. 
 

Bottom line….family members riding the coattails of their powerful relatives and getting special treatment is nothing new at all.  Rs,Ds, Is all do it.  

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1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Ja, I don’t recall folks suggesting what Biden did was criminal, or impeachment-worthy.  The argument imo is that while Trump was being hounded for all sorts of issues that were reported on a second or third hand basis (something that continues to this day), Biden oafishly brags about shaking down an ally to bend them to his will.   The larger point was that what happens everyday in Washington establishment circles suddenly became a major national crisis that stunned insiders. 
 

I agree with you about the establishment version of Biden’s actions, and the preposterous take that his son and his good fortune were completely incidental to the big picture. 
 

Bottom line….family members riding the coattails of their powerful relatives and getting special treatment is nothing new at all.  Rs,Ds, Is all do it.  


Ok, so I literally just laid out why this is wrong and also not what the Left is saying but you went with a straw man anyway because it makes you feel good or whatever. 
 

At this point, I can’t tell if the Trumpists here are just acting in bad faith or have serious reading comprehension problems. 

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7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

It’s the establishment narrative because it’s the truth. You are taking small bits of facts (Biden got the prosecutor fired and Hunter worked for Burisma) and connecting them with falsehoods. 
 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/
 

Ukraine had a ton of corruption but their prosecutor wasn’t doing much about it. The Obama administration and our European Allie’s wanted Shokin gone so that someone could come in and actually prosecute corruption. 
 

At that time, Hunter was not under investigation so removing the prosecutor would have no impact on him. If anything, it would increase the chances he would be investigated. 
 

Hunter seems like a real piece of crap,  and if he broke the law he should pay for it, but this narrative about the Ukrainian prosecutor has no basis in reality. 

 

Yes and Burisma, a proven corrupt company, still survived and thrived and Ukraine was still incredibly corrupt and needed an election to vote-out the corrupt regime years later.  If you bought that line, I've got beach front property to sell you for $1.

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