dpberr Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I don't feel sorry for the Browns but I marvel at how they can screw up every single thing they touch. It's talent on display. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 4 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Always liked Baker, Panthers are a more stable organization than Browns for sure. I wonder if they’d release Darnold? If released, I wonder if Beane would be tempted to add another one of Josh’s besties. lol...say what?? Look at the mess they made just at QB the past 2 years. 2020: Cut Newton, bring in Bridgewater: $31 million paid for the year 2021: trade Bridgewater, trade a 2nd for Darnold, AND pick up his option for 2022: $24 million committed 2021: IR Darnold, sign..........Cam Newton!!: $4.5+1.5 mil roster bonus, $6million so, 25 games after they dumped him, it has cost this franchise over $60 million ($2.6 million per passing TD) and this year's 2nd round pick, to end up with Newton as their starter again. Then benched him after 1 complete game for.....PJ ("who am I ??") Walker! Plus the trillion dollars they gave McCaffrey. Solid organization! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: lol...say what?? Look at the mess they made just at QB the past 2 years. 2020: Cut Newton, bring in Bridgewater: $31 million paid for the year 2021: trade Bridgewater, trade a 2nd for Darnold, AND pick up his option for 2022: $24 million committed 2021: IR Darnold, sign..........Cam Newton!!: $4.5+1.5 mil roster bonus, $6million so, 25 games after they dumped him, it has cost this franchise over $60 million ($2.6 million per passing TD) and this year's 2nd round pick, to end up with Newton as their starter again. Then benched him after 1 complete game for.....PJ ("who am I ??") Walker! Plus the trillion dollars they gave McCaffrey. Solid organization! I think that's the point. The Panthers are far from great, but still better than the Browns. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Sounds like a Brock Osweiler style trade could be in the realm of possibility, if Carolina wants to use cap cash to obtain another QB and some draft picks. I can picture Cleveland offering a deal of this nature to get Baker out of the building and not paying him the full $18.9 M. If it happens, it seems ironic that Cleveland would be on the other end of this kind of unusual deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, aristocrat said: Wonder if they just swap Darnold and Baker? Cleveland needs a qb. Not a bad idea. Darnold might do well in Cleveland. Browns aren't void of offensive talent and I think Darnold would be ok if given a shot. He's never really had much of a supporting cast in NY or Carolina. Unfortunately their team structure from ownership to coaching is a dumpster fire. Of course it's JMO.... Edited June 14, 2022 by billsbackto81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Baker and Darnold both on 5th year for $18,858,000 . Watson is the biggest unknown for the Brown's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/04/15/robby-anderson-weighs-in-possible-baker-mayfield-panthers-trade This is confusing to me. I've seen a lot of robbie living down here, and he's had a heckuva resurgence with mostly Teddy B and some Darnold. Bakers an upgrade over either of those. He hasn't said he wants out, just doesn't like baker? Maybe a personality thing he doesn't like baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Only thing that saddens me about this, is that if they are willing to deal Baker they know they will have Watson on field by week 7. Can't prove anything but man, I don't think he's clean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 51 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: Only thing that saddens me about this, is that if they are willing to deal Baker they know they will have Watson on field by week 7. Can't prove anything but man, I don't think he's clean. Baker was going to move regardless. Doesn’t matter if I was no suspension or 2 years. Baker and the Browns were done when he sat out week 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 7 hours ago, LittleSammy said: We should be forever grateful the messed up and disfunctional Browns took Mayfield and not Josh Allen! So should Josh Allen. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: So should Josh Allen. Agreed, as great as he is, I don’t think Josh would have progressed to his current level in Cleveland and Baker would have probably looked better than he currently is showing if he had come here. Edited June 15, 2022 by UKBillFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 5 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I think that's the point. The Panthers are far from great, but still better than the Browns. not "for sure"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Panthers/Browns play each other week 1 as well! That would be glorious to see the Panthers led by Mayfield beat a Browns team without Watson! 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Right Josh is available! He’s only willing to play for a contender I understand. Oh wait that’s for his pickle ball league. 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, UKBillFan said: Agreed, as great as he is, I don’t think Josh would have progressed to his current level in Cleveland and Baker would have probably looked better than he currently is showing if he had come here. Consider the example of the owners as well. When staff told them they wanted to put Josh Allen on short list The Pegulas made their jet available to staff and when they went to interview him with them. Allen stated that Terry had asked a number of good questions when they interviewed him. Terry has shown to be knowledgeable although more on college football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Southern_Bills said: Only thing that saddens me about this, is that if they are willing to deal Baker they know they will have Watson on field by week 7. Can't prove anything but man, I don't think he's clean. They have to move Baker regardless. Baker won’t play for them, and even if he did.. as weird as it sounds.. the Browns can’t risk having a good season with Baker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Always liked Baker, Panthers are a more stable organization than Browns for sure. I wonder if they’d release Darnold? If released, I wonder if Beane would be tempted to add another one of Josh’s besties. Never liked Baker !!!! what is there to like ?? Edited June 15, 2022 by Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 12 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Just watch out there isn't some mutual secret agreement that has the Bills covering some of his salary. That Buffalo / Carolina pipeline can be a bit too 'simpatico'. 🤨 No, we will just wait until next year and pick up Darnold to back up Josh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 11 hours ago, LittleSammy said: We should be forever grateful the messed up and disfunctional Browns took Mayfield and not Josh Allen! Amen to that !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Does this mean if he plays bad he will be a back up for Josh next year ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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