GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I disagree that he was being honest in his response to the question about his role or his feelings, I am not saying he should have said something else, His response to the question was: 1. It is in the past - you have accepted that is factually accurate. 2. That it is a matter for the Bills - surely you accept that is true? 3. He doesn't think about it. I mean I don't know whether that is true or not, pure guesswork either way. 15 minutes ago, Bangarang said: What kind of accountability are you looking for exactly? I have asked this question multiple times. They have no answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Even with that ***** up, they ***** up the three plays after in ridiculous fashion…. Even with two TOs to figure out a proper defense. IMO the special teams coach is down the line of people to blame… way behind both McDermott and Frazier. The topic is about ST coach who evidently started the ball rolling in the wrong direction, stay on topic Scott, 47 minutes ago, NoSaint said: you don’t get all the way to “and now he should have to publicly address it today” with all that though. likely because that’s a jump and reasonable to say it’s not something he needs to do Not saying that he should, just saying he was giving a canned answer to the question asked, and that in doing so was not being honest, no more no less, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bangarang said: What kind of accountability are you looking for exactly? Any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 49 minutes ago, NoSaint said: you don’t get all the way to “and now he should have to publicly address it today” with all that though. likely because that’s a jump and reasonable to say it’s not something he needs to do Not saying that he needs to do anything, I was saying that he wasn’t being honest with his canned answer to the question asked 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: I disagree that he was being honest in his response to the question about his role or his feelings, I am not saying he should have said something else, He was being as honest as possible without breaking his word to his previous employer. Everything isn't for public knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Not saying that he needs to do anything, I was saying that he wasn’t being honest with his canned answer to the question asked He wasn't spilling the beans. But that doesn't equate to not being honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: His response to the question was: 1. It is in the past - you have accepted that is factually accurate. 2. That it is a matter for the Bills - surely you accept that is true? 3. He doesn't think about it. I mean I don't know whether that is true or not, pure guesswork either way. I have asked this question multiple times. They have no answer. Not so, you may have misinterpreted my answer, could very well be a case of two countries separated by a common language…, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 We can expect the same "answer" and "accountability" that the government has had for the past two years: "It's over. Why dwell on the past? Moving forward." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 He's got a new home, a new job, a new group of peers and players. Immersed in his new life, I believe that he doesn't think about 13 seconds very much. And I give him credit. He doesn't sound bitter about Buffalo and doesn't throw anyone under the bus. All-in-all it was a positive, classy answer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, H2o said: This is the answer he is giving which is both true and false at the same time. He has moved past it and is on to his next venture. The truth of what happened in that situation is only known by those directly involved. In truth, the situation is over. Rehashing it constantly is counterproductive and really doesn't have relevance to the present. You learn from it and move on. All of the above is perfectly reasonable. That said, I’ve found that when someone says “honest” or “honestly” 37 times in nine seconds that they aren’t always being……..you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Think the people saying he isn't being honest actually mean he isn't being frank or candid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, GunnerBill said: He wasn't spilling the beans. But that doesn't equate to not being honest. It is an art form perfected by politicians and coaches, canned answers, using a bunch of words, at the same time never actually saying anything/ answering the question, this was a case of such a thing. Some call it talking around a topic, while all the time not actually addressing said topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, Don Otreply said: It is an art form perfected by politicians and coaches, canned answers, using a bunch of words, at the same time never actually saying anything/ answering the question, this was a case of such a thing. Some call it talking around a topic, while all the time not actually addressing said topic. Indeed. But it doesn't mean he wasn't honest. It means he wasn't candid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: It's a BS answer. Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened. Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up. Will probably be a “Real Sports” or 30 for 30 type documentary on the “greatest NFL game ever played” at some point in the future after a lot of the parties have retired, so they can speak more freely? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Will probably be a “Real Sports” or 30 for 30 type documentary on the “greatest NFL game ever played” at some point in the future after a lot of the parties have retired, so they can speak more freely? It took like 15 years before Wade admitted that Ralph demanded that Scrub Johnson start the Music City Forward Pass game. Maybe we'll get answers in 2036. Edited June 10, 2022 by Freddie's Dead 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: It's a BS answer. Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened. Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up. Why do we need to know? So long as there has been accountability in the building and the mistakes have been learned from what does hanging people out to dry in public achieve? McDermott said right after the game - contrary to what most people seem to think - that it starts with him. That is all we need to know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 38 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Any. A new ST coordinator doesn’t count? Or are you looking for a public lynching? McD has been here for 5 years, when have you ever known him to deal with things publicly? You really think he hasn’t dissected what went wrong and hasn’t addressed it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 pfft yeah well he's basically "Right" in as much as he has a different team to be concerned with in the now. AS IF he is going to want to open THAT can of worms in a what would become click bait article if he were to say anything other that what he did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Where did I hear that McD changed his mind about the kickoff (from through the EZ to short of it) and that the amended call never made it to Bass? Farwell was supposedly on the short kick to the EZ train from the moment after the offense scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 minute ago, muppy said: pfft yeah well he's basically "Right" in as much as he has a different team to be concerned with in the now. AS IF he is going to want to open THAT can of worms in a what would become click bait article if he were to say anything other that what he did. Its a no win situation for him. Either he admits he messed up or he throws his old team under the bus. He gave the typical canned NFL response. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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