Mr. WEO Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Putin said: Exactly ^^^^ Especially the part where we had to overpay to keep him , I think Josh Allen can make an average OC look good , While Daniel Jones is probably the opposite When Daboll is exposed as a product of the otherworldly Josh Allen, the Bills “HC pipeline” will be capped for all the rest 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I think Brady is on the staff because they want a good staff. An OC doesn't develop plans or make decisions in a vacuum. An effective OC will be collaborative and utilize the skills, wisdom, and experience of his subordinate coaches. Under the right leadership conditions, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. As an outsider looking in I can only guess. My guess is that Dorsey has been groomed for this role and has McD's confidence. Brady wasn't brought in as Dorsey's backup. But he was brought in to help make the coaching staff - and Dorsey - better. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: When Daboll is exposed as a product of the otherworldly Josh Allen, the Bills “HC pipeline” will be capped for all the rest I don't know Kilff Kingsberry got a job as a HC despite having a losing record in college because he happened to be Patrick Mahomes adjacent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Didn't realize Brady went to William & Mary. McDermott's been watching him a long time....probably factored in a bit. I like the fact that Dorsey isn't shy about bringing in staff that have called plays. This coaching staff, from a teaching and experience perspective, might be one of the better ones in Bills history. It matches the talent on the roster. That said, I hope that they are playing through a bunch of critical game scenarios this off-season, like up by 3 with 13 seconds left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, JoeF said: Didn't realize Brady went to William & Mary. McDermott's been watching him a long time....probably factored in a bit. I like the fact that Dorsey isn't shy about bringing in staff that have called plays. This coaching staff, from a teaching and experience perspective, might be one of the better ones in Bills history. It matches the talent on the roster. That said, I hope that they are playing through a bunch of critical game scenarios this off-season, like up by 3 with 13 seconds left. Thanks for ruining my day with your last sentence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Putin said: Thanks for ruining my day with your last sentence Truly sorry....here's a cold one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 No he isn’t, being Brady kinda flubbed his own first time OC job, he is here to be a quality supporting cast member on a super bowl contender. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Bangarang said: Dorsey isn’t getting fired a month into the season. Brady is likely the OC in waiting for when Dorsey is hired to be a HC. 100%, Dorsey is already a known name, as soon as he proves he can call plays and run an offense, he will be up for some jobs. No need to pretend otherwise, all he has to do is perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Too many chefs from the looks of it on the surface. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said: 100%, Dorsey is already a known name, as soon as he proves he can call plays and run an offense, he will be up for some jobs. No need to pretend otherwise, all he has to do is perform. I heard from the dolphins fans Ken Dorsey name come up few times when they were looking for a HC 4 minutes ago, K-9 said: Too many chefs from the looks of it on the surface. Few Su shefs but only one chef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 This feels like a thing you worry about because you don't have enough things to worry about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Putin said: I heard from the dolphins fans Ken Dorsey name come up few times when they were looking for a HC Few Su shefs but only one chef If any of those sous chefs hadn’t already been head chefs themselves, I’d agree that they’re just sous chefs. Shouldn’t be a problem when things are going well, but I can see the potential for too many voices and some conflict if the offense struggles. Edited June 5, 2022 by K-9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: So, Dorsey is looking to move up the ladder so that one day he becomes a head coach and he chooses the Giants and what's his name over Allen and the Bills? Are they not all moving to move up the ladder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, K-9 said: Too many chefs from the looks of it on the surface. Not really. Dorsey will call the plays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, JoeF said: Truly sorry....here's a cold one Umm, excuse me, but……..did you bring enough for everyone? It’s their job to think of every possible scenario and be ready with plans and backup plans and backup plans for the backup plans. That’s how you build a winning organization. The best organizations (that’s us! ) will see the coaching staff and front office (and practice squad for that matter) poached more than the lousy teams. Beane and McD will be ready for the challenges ahead. If you are afraid to have smart people around you, you’ve already failed. . Edited June 5, 2022 by Augie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, K-9 said: If any of those sous chefs hadn’t already been head chefs themselves, I’d agree that they’re just sous chefs. Shouldn’t be a problem when things are going well, but I can see the potential for too many voices and some conflict if the offense struggles. I trust McD to keep everything running smooth even if there’s few bumps on the way to the SB !!! Edited June 5, 2022 by Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Augie said: Umm, excuse me, but……..did you bring enough for everyone? It’s their job to think of every possible scenario and be ready with plans and backup plans and backup plans for the backup plans. That’s how you build a winning organization. The best organizations (that’s us! ) will see the coaching staff and front office (and practice squad for that matter) poached more than the lousy teams. Beane and McD will be ready for the challenges ahead. If you are afraid to have smart people around you, you’ve already failed. . 🍻 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 McD is doing what good leaders do. He’s providing the best talent around his coordinators. McD would never allow a breach of chain of command. Coaching decisions are with the blessing of the Pegulas and Beane, but make no mistake these are HC decisions. Do you think he didn’t cover this stuff in the interview process. As a leader the last 10 years you prepare for everything and keep an eye on day to day in the beginning to make sure things flow well. Brady knows his role, and Dorsey knows he can rely on his staff to assist with generating ideas, but decisions will be made by Dorsey unless McD jumps in the game and wants to insert a specific tactic. This is a great thing as McD keeps fortifying his coaching staff with experienced coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Warcodered said: I don't know Kilff Kingsberry got a job as a HC despite having a losing record in college because he happened to be Patrick Mahomes adjacent. How’s that going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How’s that going? Yeah it wasn't a great plan, point is there always seems to be teams willing to give someone a chance because they were in sneezing range of someone who's had success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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