Paul Costa Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, wppete said: Prison or not? He will be suspended indefinitely until the lawsuits are settled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Paul Costa said: He will be suspended indefinitely until the lawsuits are settled. 12-24 month suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 4 hours ago, wppete said: Prison or not? No, not enough evidence I would assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, wppete said: Prison or not? No. Two grand juries already declined to indict him. So just civil cases and NFL punishment to come. Edited May 22, 2022 by BarleyNY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, wppete said: Prison or not? Does playing QB for the Browns count? Edited May 22, 2022 by Doc Brown 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, BarleyNY said: No. Two grand juries already declined to indict him. So just civil cases and NFL punishment to come. Yea. A further grand jury could be convened but they would beed more than testimony from the alleged victims to do so, however harrowing that testimony might be. They would need physical evidence or strong third party witness evidence essentially. EDIT: as a litigation strategy these interviews appear designed to put more pressure on a settlement. They will unquestionably put more pressure on the NFL to move from its "wait and see" stance which I have been critical of since the allegations arose last spring. Edited May 22, 2022 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea. A further grand jury could be convened but they would beed more than testimony from the alleged victims to do so, however harrowing that testimony might be. They would need physical evidence or strong third party witness evidence essentially. EDIT: as a litigation strategy these interviews appear designed to put more pressure on a settlement. They will unquestionably put more pressure on the NFL to move from its "wait and see" stance which I have been critical of since the allegations arose last spring. The answer is no with almost 100% certainty. I can’t see any reason that the grand juries were utilized other than to give prosecutors political rear end coverage for not bringing charges. They either knew they couldn’t get a conviction or that the evidence was not sufficient to bring charges. They needed a way out of indicting Watson that wasn’t on them and they found it. There’s no way they wade back into that kind of mess without incontrovertible evidence - and where are they going to get that now? So barring some damning bit of evidence that Buzbee has been sitting on coming to light there won’t be any more criminal action. Oh, and remember who Buzbee is. If he has that piece of info, he’ll use it as leverage to get a payday, not send Watson to jail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 49 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: The answer is no with almost 100% certainty. I can’t see any reason that the grand juries were utilized other than to give prosecutors political rear end coverage for not bringing charges. They either knew they couldn’t get a conviction or that the evidence was not sufficient to bring charges. They needed a way out of indicting Watson that wasn’t on them and they found it. There’s no way they wade back into that kind of mess without incontrovertible evidence - and where are they going to get that now? So barring some damning bit of evidence that Buzbee has been sitting on coming to light there won’t be any more criminal action. Oh, and remember who Buzbee is. If he has that piece of info, he’ll use it as leverage to get a payday, not send Watson to jail. Yea I totally agree. It is technically possible but extremely unlikely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea. A further grand jury could be convened but they would beed more than testimony from the alleged victims to do so, however harrowing that testimony might be. They would need physical evidence or strong third party witness evidence essentially. EDIT: as a litigation strategy these interviews appear designed to put more pressure on a settlement. They will unquestionably put more pressure on the NFL to move from its "wait and see" stance which I have been critical of since the allegations arose last spring. not necessarily strategy—they are pretrial depositions in civil suits. Part of discovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: not necessarily strategy—they are pretrial depositions in civil suits. Part of discovery. Oh so the tv is just broadcasting the depositions? I thought these were separate media interviews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Oh so the tv is just broadcasting the depositions? I thought these were separate media interviews? No the depo wasn't broadcast. The OP linked to an article describing the testimony from deposition transcripts released by the plaintiff's lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: No the depo wasn't broadcast. The OP linked to an article describing the testimony from deposition transcripts released by the plaintiff's lawyer. Yea but more recent in the thread is the TV interviews. If they are a separate thing the decision to do them is 100% part of a litigation strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Yea but more recent in the thread is the TV interviews. If they are a separate thing the decision to do them is 100% part of a litigation strategy. The plaintiff TV/HBO interviews? Pretty typical in high profile civil cases--go right to the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Oh so the tv is just broadcasting the depositions? I thought these were separate media interviews? They broadcast depositions in Texas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Just now, GoBills808 said: They broadcast depositions in Texas? I have no idea. I was asking the question. Seems that wasn't what WEO was saying. 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: The plaintiff TV/HBO interviews? Pretty typical in high profile civil cases--go right to the public. Yea - as part of a litigation strategy. You set the public narrative you put the pressure on the defendant. They are trying to tighten the screws on Watson, my point was a consequence of that is it will put the pressure on Goodell's bizarre wait and see strategy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 18 hours ago, wppete said: 12-24 month suspension? I think the HBO Real Sports interviews of the Woman will be telling. Most everything we’ve heard is through the Lawyers. I can’t see the NFL letting him play if these interviews paint a savage display towards woman. Until everything is cleared up. Not sure what that window is. Have to believe that’s up to Watson as these are civil and not criminal charges 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have no idea. I was asking the question. Seems that wasn't what WEO was saying. Yea - as part of a litigation strategy. You set the public narrative you put the pressure on the defendant. They are trying to tighten the screws on Watson, my point was a consequence of that is it will put the pressure on Goodell's bizarre wait and see strategy too. Not at all. There was no public broadcast of the deposition. The transcripts were released by the plaintiff's lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Not at all. There was no public broadcast of the deposition. The transcripts were released by the plaintiff's lawyer. Yes. That is what I meant. I thought you might have been saying it was broadcast. I had misunderstood your point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Was there testimony as to what she cried about? Seems like a leading question otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 20 hours ago, Paul Costa said: He will be suspended indefinitely until the lawsuits are settled. That’s what they should do , and after ALL the lawsuits are settled come up with the appropriate punishment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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