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10 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

Aaron Rodgers likes Kumerow - then the Bils got him from the Pack and then back from the Saints. then kept-signed before he could become a UFA....so its NFL 4 and you zero...you may like Edwards, pick him up for your fantasy team...and keep the day job...

Bryan Edwards is 23 and Jake Kumerow is 30. Bryan Edwards has 764 career yards and Jake Kumerow has 372. 

 

What are we even talking about here

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8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Bryan Edwards is 23 and Jake Kumerow is 30. Bryan Edwards has 764 career yards and Jake Kumerow has 372. 

 

What are we even talking about here

“Cerebral giants” 

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11 hours ago, qwksilver said:

This is a great "buy low" by the Falcons. He'll get more playing time with Falcons. Not sure why the Raiders moved him so cheaply and after this years draft.

They added Adams, Cole, Robinson (who essentially took his spot) plus Renfro. He's a #5 at best and bubble roster guy.   

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43 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said:

They added Adams, Cole, Robinson (who essentially took his spot) plus Renfro. He's a #5 at best and bubble roster guy.   

 I understand his falling on the depth chart. Why not move him during the draft to get a pick this year?

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3 hours ago, CSBill said:

 

Agree, Doc.

 

And when it comes to our "pass catchers," why do we always forget Marquez Stevenson? Or, may he is not a very good "pass catcher?"

 

He seems to be the forgotten man on TBD, I guess the question is, is he forgotten on OBD?

  

  Also everyone forgets we still have hodgins as well.  Seems like could be something there since they have kept him this long.  No one wants to lose any of their top players to injury but that is a concern òf every single team in the league.  Only difference now is with the Bills having the best QB in the league he can make weapons out of most competent players.  It is really up to the players how good they can be with Josh.  

 

 

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Kumerow is a ST player. They’re not aiming to knock him off the roster with a guy like Edwards. If you’re simply ranking WR talent then fine, make sense. If you’re building a roster, silly silly.

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13 minutes ago, AuntieEm said:

  

  Also everyone forgets we still have hodgins as well.  Seems like could be something there since they have kept him this long.  No one wants to lose any of their top players to injury but that is a concern òf every single team in the league.  Only difference now is with the Bills having the best QB in the league he can make weapons out of most competent players.  It is really up to the players how good they can be with Josh.  

 

 

Hodgins is another slot WR, like Crowder, Isaiah and, for the most part, Shakir.  He’ll likely be on the PS or poached. 

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4 minutes ago, Airseven said:

Kumerow is a ST player. They’re not aiming to knock him off the roster with a guy like Edwards. If you’re simply ranking WR talent then fine, make sense. If you’re building a roster, silly silly.

Special teams is progressively being eliminated from the league… IMO I think it’s somewhat foolish to prioritize at the expense of other positions as much as they do.

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Just now, Airseven said:

Kumerow is a ST player. They’re not aiming to knock him off the roster with a guy like Edwards. If you’re simply ranking WR talent then fine, make sense. If you’re building a roster, silly silly.

You’re correct. He is a ST player and that’s the only reason he’s on the team.  People that want edwards would rather we worry more about depth at a very important position (outside WR) than ST (considering we’re already carrying  handful of players that ONLY play special teams and have little value elsewhere. 
 

pick your poison. Depth or ST.  Both sides have points. M  I’d prefer an outside WR over ST personally, but McB really cares about ST and I don’t expect that to change.  I expect Kumerow back and am hoping that Diggs and Davis can stay healthy. Other than Kumerow, Shakir is the closest thing we have to a replacement on the outside.  And he’s much better off inside. 

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1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

“Cerebral giants” 

Right. As if you making the Edwards/Kumerow comparison in the first place was a stroke of genius. Any moron can ascertain that Edwards is a superior receiver; it’s obvious. What’s also obvious in your specious argument is your total lack of appreciation for roster construction and the specific roles players have on teams.

 

Kumerow doesn’t have to catch a single pass all year in order to justify his value to the team. 

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17 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Right. As if you making the Edwards/Kumerow comparison in the first place was a stroke of genius. Any moron can ascertain that Edwards is a superior receiver; it’s obvious. What’s also obvious in your specious argument is your total lack of appreciation for roster construction and the specific roles players have on teams.

 

Kumerow doesn’t have to catch a single pass all year in order to justify his value to the team. 

Pick a side.  Better depth or better ST play. The ST guy is going to have a chance to make a small impact in every game.  The depth guy might have a chance to have a big impact on every game (if Diggs or Davis is hurt)….or might not have any impact at all, except for keeping a good ST player off the roster.  
 

Both sides of the coin have valid arguments. These are the problems when you have the best team in the league.  Just 4 seasons ago, our best Wr was Zay jones, who had 74 targets…..and 27 receptions. Deonte Thompson was our 2nd best WR that year (but really our best).  If you combine their catches that year, they had 5 more catches than Charles Clay had that year.
 

Life is good, enjoy it.  Or be like another guy and look for the only thing you can complain about and complain about it.

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

Pick a side.  Better depth or better ST play. The ST guy is going to have a chance to make a small impact in every game.  The depth guy might have a chance to have a big impact on every game (if Diggs or Davis is hurt)….or might not have any impact at all, except for keeping a good ST player off the roster.  
 

Both sides of the coin have valid arguments. These are the problems when you have the best team in the league.  Just 4 seasons ago, our best Wr was Zay jones, who had 74 targets…..and 27 receptions. Deonte Thompson was our 2nd best WR that year (but really our best).  If you combine their catches that year, they had 5 more catches than Charles Clay had that year.
 

Life is good, enjoy it.  Or be like another guy and look for the only thing you can complain about and complain about it.

It’s not a question of “picking sides” but rather a question of what McBeane value in roster construction.
 

God forbid any of our top guys get hurt, but does anyone really believe that McBeane would rely on Kumerow to carry the load? No. Because they would be beating the bushes to find a better replacement. But McBeane can’t make CURRENT roster decisions based on what MIGHT happen and leave a hole at a CURRENT spot in order to hedge against what MIGHT happen at a FUTURE spot. They are satisfied with their CURRENT WR depth and the naysayers will just have to accept that. 
 

But all that’s beside the point. The ludicrous comparison of Edwards and Kumerow as receivers never should have been made in the first place. 

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1 minute ago, K-9 said:

It’s not a question of “picking sides” but rather a question of what McBeane value in roster construction.
 

God forbid any of our top guys get hurt, but does anyone really believe that McBeane would rely on Kumerow to carry the load? No. Because they would be beating the bushes to find a better replacement. But McBeane can’t make CURRENT roster decisions based on what MIGHT happen and leave a hole at a CURRENT spot in order to hedge against what MIGHT happen at a FUTURE spot. They are satisfied with their CURRENT WR depth and the naysayers will just have to accept that. 
 

But all that’s beside the point. The ludicrous comparison of Edwards and Kumerow as receivers never should have been made in the first place. 

We’re on a message board.  Yes….it is about picking a side.  We aren’t going to have an impact on whatever they decide…but when on a message board, the conversation revolves around what matters more: ST or depth.  
 

The OP wrote the thread to support his thought that McB puts too much emphasis on ST.  You either agree or disagree. 

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10 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Good question and we lack depth at outside WR.  McKenzie and Crowder are purely slot guys.  Shakir projects better inside but I'm sure they'll give him some reps at the x position as well.  Kumerow is a special team gunner and a break glass in case of emergency backup WR.  Have they given up on Hodgins?  Does McBeane bring in another veteran WR (like Emmanuel Sanders) if they aren't satisfied with letting Shakir, Hodgins, or Kumerow being the next man up to Diggs or Davis?   I doubt players like Julio Jones or TY Hilton would be interested in a backup role.

 

This is what 29" arms trying to get off press against a long, boundary corner looks like.

 

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Shakir is a slot because it's easier to scheme a clean release inside and because the DB's inside tend to also be less lengthy athletes.

 

It is why Kumerow is likely the first off the bench to fill in for Diggs or Davis.    

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13 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Correct.  But the core special teams guys, ideally should be able to contribute at their primary positions

 

 

So, thought experiment -

How would you break those guys down in terms of their specific roles?

 

Specifically, who are the backups to Diggs and Davis?

No one can compare to Our Diggs and Davis. No One!  I told you !
if they went down we just start running a 12 personnel set and motion the new Kid at RB to the outside

😘

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2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Right. As if you making the Edwards/Kumerow comparison in the first place was a stroke of genius. Any moron can ascertain that Edwards is a superior receiver; it’s obvious. What’s also obvious in your specious argument is your total lack of appreciation for roster construction and the specific roles players have on teams.

 

Kumerow doesn’t have to catch a single pass all year in order to justify his value to the team. 

I appreciate Kumerows value to the team as a quality special teamer only…. 10 times out of 10 I’d prefer the guy behind Diggs and Davis to be a quality replacement(which Kumerow absolutely is not) in the inevitable scenario of one of them suffering an injury at the expense of special teams.

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31 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

No one can compare to Our Diggs and Davis. No One!  I told you !
if they went down we just start running a 12 personnel set and motion the new Kid at RB to the outside

😘


Best QB in the NFL.  Strongest arm in the NFL.  Pass Offense elite.  
 

If Diggs or Davis go down, we run the Ravens Offense?

 

Thanks, i hate it. 

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