(Pre Draft) Bills offered Panthers a trade for McCaffrey, Panthers declined

[LABILLBACKER]

22 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

You’d think they’d have learned by now to stay away from the Carolina connection 😅

Yup, it's officially time to cut the cord on Carolina. He would've just immediately gotten injured like AD from the Lakers. Some athletes are just injury prone.  Cook will be just fine.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

6 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Oh yeah? I suppose that’s why they have had to draft a RB for 3 straight years, cause they’ve all been studs. 

Bills didn't draft a RB last year. 

[Estro]

Be careful with Adam Caplan reporting. The guy slings around a lot of half truths as matter of fact. 

 

He publicly claimed to often get 16 picks correct on his mock drafts back in the day, which for anybody thats a draft nerd knows that is a total lie. I also listen to a lot of his local coverage down here in the Philadelphia market, and I've noticed hes a little loose with his "inside info". Hes a wannabe Schefter.

Edited May 13, 2022 by Estro

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 minutes ago, Estro said:

Be careful with Adam Caplan reporting. The guy slings around a lot of half truths as matter of fact. 

 

He publicly claimed to often get 16 picks correct on his mock drafts back in the day, which for anybody thats a draft nerd knows that is a total lie. I also listen to a lot of his local coverage down here in the Philadelphia market, and I've noticed hes a little loose with his "inside info". Hes a wannabe Schefter.

So:

Schefter > Caplan > Merrill Reese

? 🤔😁

[DCofNC]

2 hours ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said:

Bills didn't draft a RB last year. 

You are correct.  So skipped a year and still needed a RB.  Committed 2 3rd round picks and then used a second on a guy the GM came out and said isn’t a starter.  RB along with OG, LB and DL are not positions where this front office “gets the benefit of the doubt”.  They have not identified the great talent there, in multiple attempts.

[Bob Chandler's Hands]

4 hours ago, DCofNC said:

You are correct.  So skipped a year and still needed a RB.  Committed 2 3rd round picks and then used a second on a guy the GM came out and said isn’t a starter.  RB along with OG, LB and DL are not positions where this front office “gets the benefit of the doubt”.  They have not identified the great talent there, in multiple attempts.

I wasn't commenting on that. Only pointing out your factual error. 

[RocCityRoller]

6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

So:

Schefter > Caplan > Merrill Reese

? 🤔😁

 

Put some respect on Merrill Reese!

 

I was in that market when WIP was still on 610 AM and just switching over.

 

[BillsFanForever19]

13 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Wow, there is somebody with common sense out there.  A guy who didn’t start in college is suddenly better than an All-Pro, makes sense, right?   Well said.

 

You are SERIOUSLY over simplifying things in your mantra of Christian McCaffrey being an All-Pro and James Cook not being a Starter.

 

Christian McCaffrey was an All Pro... in 2019. Since that time he's played in a total of 10 games. And at least 3 of those 10 games involved him exiting the game early or attempting to come back from injury and getting injured again.

 

Dude's got a Medical History that lights up like a Christmas Tree. In large part due to having a total of 1,859 touches (not an exaggeration, an exact number) between rushing attempts and receptions between College and the Pros. And that doesn't take into account pass pro reps. That's a LOT of tread taken off the tires.

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/christian-mccaffrey-1.html

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCaCh01.htm

 

And if all that wasn't concerning enough, there's his contract. 9 million cap hit this season that goes up to 19.5 million in both 2023 and 2024 and will cost 18.35 in Dead Cap if we wanted to move on from him after this season. AND we'd have to give up Draft Compensation on top of it.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/

 

James Cook "wasn't a starter" but still managed to be the leader in all purpose yards on Offense for the National Championship team last season and was drafted 2 Rounds before "the starter".

 

He played in a split backfield in Georgia just like the offense McDermott likes to utilize here. He's a player that stays fresh and doesn't need to get a whole bunch of reps to get going. The best pass catching RB in the Draft, a position we were looking to fill. He has way less wear and tear and usage and costs close to nothing compared to what we'd have had to pay McCaffrey.

 

In that split backfield in Georgia where he "wasn't the starter" - last season, James Cook had 140 touches compared to Zamir White's 169. That's 83% of the touches "the starter" had. That's almost a complete split. So referring to Cook like he's a backup is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. 

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/zamir-white-1.html

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/james-cook-2.html

Edited May 14, 2022 by BillsFanForever19

[BillsfaninChicago]

He needs to legally change his name to Fantasy Football Poison. 

[DCofNC]

10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

You are SERIOUSLY over simplifying things in your mantra of Christian McCaffrey being an All-Pro and James Cook not being a Starter.

 

Christian McCaffrey was an All Pro... in 2019. Since that time he's played in a total of 10 games. And at least 3 of those 10 games involved him exiting the game early or attempting to come back from injury and getting injured again.

 

Dude's got a Medical History that lights up like a Christmas Tree. In large part due to having a total of 1,859 touches (not an exaggeration, an exact number) between rushing attempts and receptions between College and the Pros. And that doesn't take into account pass pro reps. That's a LOT of tread taken off the tires.

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/christian-mccaffrey-1.html

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McCaCh01.htm

 

And if all that wasn't concerning enough, there's his contract. 9 million cap hit this season that goes up to 19.5 million in both 2023 and 2024 and will cost 18.35 in Dead Cap if we wanted to move on from him after this season. AND we'd have to give up Draft Compensation on top of it.

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/

 

James Cook "wasn't a starter" but still managed to be the leader in all purpose yards on Offense for the National Championship team last season and was drafted 2 Rounds before "the starter".

 

He played in a split backfield in Georgia just like the offense McDermott likes to utilize here. He's a player that stays fresh and doesn't need to get a whole bunch of reps to get going. The best pass catching RB in the Draft, a position we were looking to fill. He has way less wear and tear and usage and costs close to nothing compared to what we'd have had to pay McCaffrey.

 

In that split backfield in Georgia where he "wasn't the starter" - last season, James Cook had 140 touches compared to Zamir White's 169. That's 83% of the touches "the starter" had. That's almost a complete split. So referring to Cook like he's a backup is ABSOLUTELY ridiculous. 

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/zamir-white-1.html

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/james-cook-2.html

The GM that drafted him flat out said he’s not a #1 back.  He can’t run between the tackles, McCaffrey was the best back on the planet and you want to compare him to a guy who couldn’t start over a 4th round back, you REALLY want to proclaim yourself this intelligent? 

[BADOLBILZ]

On 5/12/2022 at 11:28 PM, JerseyBills said:

They obviously wanted to add a duel threat RB. 

 

Duel threat RB's are Bully-Ball 101.

[NewEra]

11 hours ago, ddaryl said:

Sa-da-tay!!

7 hours ago, DCofNC said:

You are correct.  So skipped a year and still needed a RB.  Committed 2 3rd round picks and then used a second on a guy the GM came out and said isn’t a starter.  RB along with OG, LB and DL are not positions where this front office “gets the benefit of the doubt”.  They have not identified the great talent there, in multiple attempts.

Yeah, Beane is failing us for sure