Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Hopefully Poyer will take this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Is a ‘git r done Beanie’ appropriate here? 🤔 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 No way. I’d love it, but won’t happen. Probably $11 mil. for two years may make him happy. Calculated gambke bit he hasn’t lost anything g to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 11, 2022 Author Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: No way. I’d love it, but won’t happen. Probably $11 mil. for two years may make him happy. Calculated gambke bit he hasn’t lost anything g to date. Probably will be higher on average but the key is the guaranteed money. Give him the same deal but make it fully guaranteed. Maybe 3 years $30 million fully guaranteed. That puts him right up there with the top safeties in guaranteed money. Edited May 11, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Is a ‘git r done Beanie’ appropriate here? 🤔 HUDS, I scanned the emojis and I don't know what to think here. Yes? Maybe? Does it hurt us? Would he take it? If we are effectively talking a two year deal with little to no dead money consequences I could be in. This is so easy when you know the guys are going to be here a few years, but with some it gets tricky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: HUDS, I scanned the emojis and I don't know what to think here. Yes? Maybe? Does it hurt us? Would he take it? If we are effectively talking a two year deal with little to no dead money consequences I could be in. This is so easy when you know the guys are going to be here a few years, but with some it gets tricky. I also hear that wifey may be expecting premium dollars for this, his likely last significant K…so if she’s not on board with what the Bills are offering, he won’t be either, imho. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Based on what he is getting this year, I think this would be a pay cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I also hear that wifey may be expecting premium dollars for this, his likely last significant K…so if she’s not on board with what the Bills are offering, he won’t be either, imho. Tell her to sign up for onlyfans if she wants to control how much money she gets. Edited May 11, 2022 by The Wiz 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 3 hours ago, 13 Second Prevent Defense said: Based on what he is getting this year, I think this would be a pay cut. Ya and likely would be if he signed a deal next year no one is going to invest the dollars in an older safety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Would be a fair contract. Also, Mathieu is better than Poyer. That’s a fair barometer of a contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 hmm, Poyer has to be looking at min 2+ years extension...how many age 30+ extensions can you do before it becomes a bad idea esp at safety most esp with two young vets as backups, one of which becomes a UFA as well ? with Josh contract exploding, Knox (likely) and edmunds (possible - no debate intended) extensions...not sure if this works unless they add dead-void years... wondering how much the cap goes up next season if they decide to do it to absorb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Matthieu is not better than Poyer. Poyer was a 1st All Pro last year. It’s hard with safeties as we don’t see all they do. Not knocking on you as I understand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Ralph is cheap, he'll never go for that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 7 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said: HUDS, I scanned the emojis and I don't know what to think here. Yes? Maybe? Does it hurt us? Would he take it? If we are effectively talking a two year deal with little to no dead money consequences I could be in. This is so easy when you know the guys are going to be here a few years, but with some it gets tricky. this is a 3 year with voidable 4th to put dead money into a year he wouldn’t even be on the team. not saying it’s bad but it’s not a 3 year you bail on in 2 with no dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 If my name is Brandon Beane (it’s not) I would be putting a stipulation into Poyers contract. Tell your wife to DM me (insert inappropriate joke here) before running her mouth on social media since this front office has taken care of pretty much everyone on the team. It’s a bad look and seems really unnecessary. It’s not like talent isn’t getting taken care of by this regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I just don't think keeping BOTH 30-plus safeties is smart beyond 2022. Sure it would be ideal to keep them both until they both retire. But that's not smart given the cost and potentially diminishing returns. Heck, the cost alone says DON'T PAY THEM BOTH. Cap distribution with an elite QB and WR suggests only ONE high-end veteran safety can be afforded. Distribute the remaining funds elsewhere and continue to draft well. We haven't seen much if any dropoff recently when Johnson and Hamlin have BRIEFLY (attackable point) seen the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I don’t think Beane has any intention of paying Poyer close to this contract or term, and I suspect Poyer is looking for more. He has younger players he would rather pay next year. Sad but likely true. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, FLFan said: I don’t think Beane has any intention of paying Poyer close to this contract or term, and I suspect Poyer is looking for more. He has younger players he would rather pay next year. Sad but likely true. I honestly think they drafted Bernard to take that spot or they move Johnson there and have Bernard play the nickel. Poyer has been under appreciated but I don't think Beane can squeeze the money he wants in, unless its a 4-5 year deal with guaranteed money spread out and backloaded and voidable after 2-3 years, aka Von Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 5/3/2022 at 10:32 AM, benderbender said: Yeah but his outspoken, money hungry representation has already said he isn't interested in a team friendly deal. Also his agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 20 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Probably will be higher on average but the key is the guaranteed money. Give him the same deal but make it fully guaranteed. Maybe 3 years $30 million fully guaranteed. That puts him right up there with the top safeties in guaranteed money. Why pay him more then the better safety who just signed? It's a twi way street. He needs to accept that if he wants to be on the team he may have to come in under it. But it looks like all he wants is money this go around and im not knocking him just stating the obvious. You don't change agents not expecting a payday Edited May 12, 2022 by Sharky7337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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