HOUSE Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Line them both on the goal line, I figure Allen can hit the 20, Matt Araiza about the 20 I assume this could be tried for fun in training camp This could be close... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 I’ll take shorts man any day of the week 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmart128 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 I think you gotta go with Josh Allens arm... he can throw close to 80 yards. Araiza has 80 yard punts but thats usually with a roll 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Neither are as powerful as coach's clap 1 1 1 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Let's hope McD chooses Allen's arm in the wind and snow instead of Araiza's leg. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I think you gotta go with Josh Allens arm... he can throw close to 80 yards. Araiza has 80 yard punts but thats usually with a roll Yes but also got to remember that’s from the LoS and araiza punts from behind that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Why are punters and kickers valued so little in the draft I just don’t understand it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 1, 2022 Author Share Posted May 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kmart128 said: I think you gotta go with Josh Allens arm... he can throw close to 80 yards. Araiza has 80 yard punts but thats usually with a roll I am not sure Josh can throw 80 yards through the air either, I am guessing 70 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Neither are as powerful as coach's clap Incredible Hulk like 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Ever hear the crazy story's about FG's these guys make in practice? He kicked it over 90 yards in the air in a game situation. I imagine he has had 95-100+ yard punts in practice. I have to go with Araiza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alphadawg7 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kmart128 said: I think you gotta go with Josh Allens arm... he can throw close to 80 yards. Araiza has 80 yard punts but thats usually with a roll Yeah but that’s trying to also get hang time of some sort too. Curious how far he could kick it if hang time didn’t matter and just going for longest kick Edited May 1, 2022 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Fortunately we'll never know. We don't punt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 I saw a clip where Arazia was at his goal line when he punted, and the ball landed beyond the opposing 25. The knock on Arazia is apparently that he doesn't get enough hang time, and that's a big worry. The Bills had a punter with the highest average in the league a couple of years ago, Bojorquez, and they cut him, and so have the teams he signed with. I don't know if he didn't have enough hang time or if he couldn't kick directionally, or if he wasn't a good holder on FGs and EPs. Whatever, there's a lot more going on there than just punting for average. it would be great to have someone better than Haack punting for us, but I've read that Haack is an excellent holder for Bass. So it's not a lock that Arazia makes the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 when u can kick a ball 86 yards at sea level i think u have to go with the kicker. hang time or not...it takes a ball a while to travel 86 yards. arazia also can do kick offs and even field goals and is proficient with all of them. holding is the only skill he needs to learn. If i remember right while Bojo had a huge leg it was hit or miss if he was going to shank it or not and thats all he could do was kick deep (into the endzone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 For sheer distance in terms of where the ball ends up, it might be close. If you could put a little GPS chip inside the ball, though, and measure its complete trajectory, the punter will EASILY go way farther. Think of the muscle groups involved. A leg is a hell of a lot stronger than an arm, even if you are Josh Allen and you throw with your entire body in a torquing motion, which is where his power comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Utah John said: I saw a clip where Arazia was at his goal line when he punted, and the ball landed beyond the opposing 25. The knock on Arazia is apparently that he doesn't get enough hang time, and that's a big worry. The Bills had a punter with the highest average in the league a couple of years ago, Bojorquez, and they cut him, and so have the teams he signed with. I don't know if he didn't have enough hang time or if he couldn't kick directionally, or if he wasn't a good holder on FGs and EPs. Whatever, there's a lot more going on there than just punting for average. it would be great to have someone better than Haack punting for us, but I've read that Haack is an excellent holder for Bass. So it's not a lock that Arazia makes the team. Holding for a FG only seems to have become an issue in the aftermath of Bojórquez. I think Araiza’s ability to catch and get the ball down properly is being entirely overblown. EDIT: And Cory wasn’t cut. The Bills wanted him back but he and his agent had a higher price in mind than what the team was offering. Beane then came out with the comment of re-signing players who wanted to be here. Edited May 1, 2022 by JayBaller10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 Only 1 way to find out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Why are punters and kickers valued so little in the draft I just don’t understand it Because really good ones go undrafted every year It's a value thing... And it's not a sure thing Florida State kicker went in the second round a few years ago... He couldn't even really make a roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted May 1, 2022 Share Posted May 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said: Holding for a FG only seems to have become an issue in the aftermath of Bojórquez. I think Araiza’s ability to catch and get the ball down properly is being entirely overblown. EDIT: And Cory wasn’t cut. The Bills wanted him back but he and his agent had a higher price in mind than what the team was offering. Beane then came out with the comment of re-signing players who wanted to be here. He made less than Haack did last year. Like half as much. I doubt this statement is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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