BurpleBull Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I see.....so what this really is about you have your head up Breece Hall's ass Sorry....he is a jet now....you will def get to see your boy twice a year. Hopefully him and his 800 carries will hold up so he can make you happy Check the draft day thread. I said many on this board thought Hall was a 1st rd. talent, myself not included. What the hell did you even read? Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 6 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: tell me then What is the difference between Breece Hall 4:39 and James Cook 4:42 You actually think .03 is the difference between Elite speed and not Elite speed? That what you're saying? Or should we of gotten Tariq Woolen ran a 4:26 .16 faster then Cook? Should we of gotten Tariq Woolen in round 5? IMO, I would’ve taken Breece at 25 and chosen Coby Bryant later. He was the Jim Thorpe award winner (best collegiate CB). His measurables are comparable to Elam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: To me Dalvin and James look exactly alike Maybe in how they move, but Dalvin is 20 lbs heavier, but not quite as fast. (Assuming you can believe anything on the internet 🤷♂️) In todays NFL, I’m not sure if lighter and faster isn’t better going forward. NO, I am NOT saying James will be better than Dalvin, just commenting on how the game is shifting. Between Cook and a couple other hybrid type picks, I just wonder if we are not ahead of the curve on how the game is changing. Or, we guessed wrong on the trend and we’re screwed……… 😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 4 hours ago, billsrul120 said: Breece Hall's 10 yd split was 1.54 seconds James Cook's 10 yd split was 1.55 seconds So 0.01 second difference in acceleration. 30 lb difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: IMO, I would’ve taken Breece at 25 and chosen Coby Bryant later. He was the Jim Thorpe award winner (best collegiate CB). His measurables are comparable to Elam. I think Elam is better for the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think Elam is better for the need. I’ll let Beane split the vote and call it a day. Nothing against anyone in particular, but some people have draft day grudges that go back decades! Chill out! It happened, and it’s over and we have moved on. Life is good! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: IMO, I would’ve taken Breece at 25 and chosen Coby Bryant later. He was the Jim Thorpe award winner (best collegiate CB). His measurables are comparable to Elam. Bryant has 4.54 speed. Plus the last good JT winner was Eric Berry in 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrul120 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 46 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: 30 lb difference According to the nfl prospect pages cook is 199 and hall is 217 so 18 lbs. We were comparing speed anyway. Hall was taken 27 spots ahead of cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mat68 said: IReggie Bush as a Saint was a problem. Reggie bush as a Bill was also a problem, but not quite in the same way Edited May 6, 2022 by stevewin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Augie said: I’ll let Beane split the vote and call it a day. Nothing against anyone in particular, but some people have draft day grudges that go back decades! Chill out! It happened, and it’s over and we have moved on. Life is good! As to the bolded: speak for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) I'm glad Beane took Cook, he's the piece the offense has been missing. A legit dual threat RB/WR with speed to make defenses pay for covering with a LBer and also doubling Diggs. He's in Rich Eisen's top 5 sneaky good picks. Spoiler Alert....He's #1. Edited May 6, 2022 by LOVEMESOMEBILLS 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 14 minutes ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I'm glad Beane took Cook, he's the piece the offense has been missing. A legit dual threat RB/WR with speed to make defenses pay for covering with a LBer and also doubling Diggs. He's in Rich Eisen's top 5 sneaky good picks. Spoiler Alert....He's #1. I do like the pick. He seems to be a nice addition to the offense. However, let's see the kid play in the NFL. Let's see how is going to be used, how much playing time he gets, and how effective or ineffective he will be. Remember the hype in KC when they picked CEH. So far, he hasn't lived up to expectations. After all, he was a RB by committee in GA and not even remotely close to a 1st round prospect. Let's wait and see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I do like the pick. He seems to be a nice addition to the offense. However, let's see the kid play in the NFL. Let's see how is going to be used, how much playing time he gets, and how effective or ineffective he will be. Remember the hype in KC when they picked CEH. So far, he hasn't lived up to expectations. After all, he was a RB by committee in GA and not even remotely close to a 1st round prospect. Let's wait and see... Good point but remember that Clyde Edwards-Helaire ran a 4.61 at the combine. In that regard he and Cook are not really comparable. Also CEH was a 1st round pick FWIW. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Sierra Foothills said: Good point but remember that Clyde Edwards-Helaire ran a 4.61 at the combine. In that regard he and Cook are not really comparable. Also CEH was a 1st round pick FWIW. I think the hype for CEH in KC seems pretty similar to the hype Cook is getting from Bills fans now. CEH was supposed to be their dynamic RB catching the ball. Giving KC another offensive weapon for defenses to worry about. Sound familiar? The two in of itself don't really equate for various reasons. Point being, I'd just like to tone down the rhetoric that Cook is going to make this offense so dangerous. Folks it's Allen's offense with a sold Oline that will make the difference. Cook as a rookie will likely have a tiny effect on the overall offense. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 5 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Check the draft day thread. I said many on this board thought Hall was a 1st rd. talent, myself not included. What the hell did you even read? Lol Yet speed is the only thing on your mind that I can read from your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 6 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: I'm glad Beane took Cook, he's the piece the offense has been missing. A legit dual threat RB/WR with speed to make defenses pay for covering with a LBer and also doubling Diggs. He's in Rich Eisen's top 5 sneaky good picks. Spoiler Alert....He's #1. how can a 2nd round pick be considered sneaky? What is a sneaky pick anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 2 hours ago, nucci said: how can a 2nd round pick be considered sneaky? What is a sneaky pick anyway? Sneaky good pick. He defined it as a draft pick who didn't get as much national attention as the top picks, but can come in and make an immediate impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurpleBull Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 7 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Yet speed is the only thing on your mind that I can read from your posts Okay, speed "is the only thing" on my mind concerning my dislike of where Cook was picked, that still doesn't explain where you came away with me wanting Breece Hall to be drafted. I wanted the org. to hold off on drafting an RB high until next year's draft where at least two legit, 1st rd. talents might declare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Augie said: I’ll let Beane split the vote and call it a day. Nothing against anyone in particular, but some people have draft day grudges that go back decades! Chill out! It happened, and it’s over and we have moved on. Life is good! I hear ya, there is a lot of butt hurt fans when it comes to this sort of thing, kinda funny to read their laments…, oh well, life is indeed good,👍 21 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: Okay, speed "is the only thing" on my mind concerning my dislike of where Cook was picked, that still doesn't explain where you came away with me wanting Breece Hall to be drafted. I wanted the org. to hold off on drafting an RB high until next year's draft where at least two legit, 1st rd. talents might declare. Not likely getting either at pick 32…, Edited May 6, 2022 by Don Otreply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 8 hours ago, newcam2012 said: I think the hype for CEH in KC seems pretty similar to the hype Cook is getting from Bills fans now. CEH was supposed to be their dynamic RB catching the ball. Giving KC another offensive weapon for defenses to worry about. Sound familiar? The two in of itself don't really equate for various reasons. Point being, I'd just like to tone down the rhetoric that Cook is going to make this offense so dangerous. Folks it's Allen's offense with a sold Oline that will make the difference. Cook as a rookie will likely have a tiny effect on the overall offense. Curious why you think this? seeing as Beane tried to get a RB in free agency for this exact reason.... I'm thinking he has more of a role then you might think based on that alone. as for it's Allen's offense of course it is it always will be, But having someone that can be a dump off option that has 4.4 speed makes Allens job easier... That what Beane is trying to do...Here. It's great having all world Allen but eventually he's going to get hurt if the current pace continues. Allen dumping to Cook for 9 yards is better than Josh rushing for 15 or even more.... IMHO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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