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Doc Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I would’ve preferred not to trade a fourth to move up two slots - let the board come to you and trade down if the value isn’t there. Even if it meant losing-out on the last player with a 1st round grade on their board, at a position of greatest need? If your answer is "yes," we'll agree to disagree. And about half the NFL traded-up in that 1st round alone. Speaking of which, you're basically making a hypocrite of yourself by giving a thumbs up to the following post, since getting a WR in any of the first 2 rounds would have entailed trading-up (or reaching). 5 minutes ago, BillsVet said: For a front office highlighted here and elsewhere as being one of or the best in the the league they're strategically underwhelming this draft. Going CB, RB, and LB with their top picks makes me wonder if they're focused on not entering the arms race going on across the NFL. With other teams loading up at WR, McBeane want more secondary help. And, rather than go after those WR's early, they'll draft backs who can catch the ball. And of course, continue with more high picks for the front 7 as I'm sure McD wants. My issue with McBeane is they default to defense in an offensive era where more often than not the better passing offense wins in the playoffs. The 1st tier of WRs were finished by pick 18. That would have entailed trading-up (using their 3rd and 4th round picks). Taking any other WR at 25 would have been a reach. Did you want them to trade out of the 1st just so they could "enter the arms race"? Trade up in the 2nd to take a WR? And is a 2nd round rookie WR going to make or break the offense? There will be loads of veteran WRs who will be available after the draft. Not that they will necessarily need them given the top-4 spots are set. As for the last statement, the better passing offense lost in the AFCCG. Because of defense (and that team traded up in the 1st to address their own defense). You need to play both offense and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, BillsVet said: For a front office highlighted here and elsewhere as being one of or the best in the the league they're strategically underwhelming this draft. Going CB, RB, and LB with their top picks makes me wonder if they're focused on not entering the arms race going on across the NFL. With other teams loading up at WR, McBeane want more secondary help. And, rather than go after those WR's early, they'll draft backs who can catch the ball. And of course, continue with more high picks for the front 7 as I'm sure McD wants. My issue with McBeane is they default to defense in an offensive era where more often than not the better passing offense wins in the playoffs. If 13 seconds didn’t tell you the importance of improving the defense, I don’t know what else to tell you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: If 13 seconds didn’t tell you the importance of improving the defense, I don’t know what else to tell you. Did they draft any coaches on Day 1 or 2? 😂😂😂 Edited April 30, 2022 by BTB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doc said: The 1st tier of WRs were finished by pick 18. That would have entailed trading-up (using their 3rd and 4th round picks). Taking any other WR at 25 would have been a reach. Did you want them to trade out of the 1st just so they could "enter the arms race"? Trade up in the 2nd to take a WR? And is a 2nd round rookie WR going to make or break the offense? There will be loads of veteran WRs who will be available after the draft. Not that they will necessarily need them given the top-4 spots are set. As for the last statement, the better passing offense lost in the AFCCG. Because of defense (and that team traded up in the 1st to address their own defense). You need to play both offense and defense. Funny thing about draft time is people know the cost of everything but the value of almost nothing. Buffalo was picking at 25 originally and used a 4th to move up to 23. It's gonna take a couple years, but at this point I'm cool with trading a 3rd to move up to grab a WR at 15 when your depth there is porous. After all, Buffalo getting another LB for the defense isn't a huge cost because those players aren't impacting games as much as a WR does. You can sign decent UFA LBs at value prices without burning top 100 picks anyway. Loads of WR's available after the draft? Come on dude. If you're talking UDFA's...yeah maybe 1 out of 20 becomes something. As for vets...try fitting them under the cap constraints this team faces each season now. To your final comment...KC last season was the better offense and threw the ball better. The Cheaps offense has been better at getting YAC and is overall less reliant on their QB carrying the ball. 8 minutes ago, BTB said: Did they draft any coaches on Day 1 or 2? 😂😂😂 Maybe not, but maybe they held remedial communication seminars for the HC and his DC who stumble in crunch time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, BillsVet said: Funny thing about draft time is people know the cost of everything but the value of almost nothing. Buffalo was picking at 25 originally and used a 4th to move up to 23. It's gonna take a couple years, but at this point I'm cool with trading a 3rd to move up to grab a WR at 15 when your depth there is porous. After all, Buffalo getting another LB for the defense isn't a huge cost because those players aren't impacting games as much as a WR does. You can sign decent UFA LBs at value prices without burning top 100 picks anyway. Loads of WR's available after the draft? Come on dude. If you're talking UDFA's...yeah maybe 1 out of 20 becomes something. As for vets...try fitting them under the cap constraints this team faces each season now. To your final comment...KC last season was the better offense and threw the ball better. The Cheaps offense has been better at getting YAC and is overall less reliant on their QB carrying the ball. I was very much about upgrading WR, so I agree with your general sentiment. I do think Cook is a nice pick who will impact the passing game. He is like a slot receiver coming out of the backfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Get used to us taking a mid round RB most years under Beane as Singletary may just wrapping his head around unless a modest contract extension, they’ll move from him. It’s the new NFL. More teams unless they have a very special RB, just keep drafting them and use up over four years. I’ve just accepted we’ll use of our 2-4th round picks anRB almost every year. It’s a waste of $ to pay big $ for a RB when they get hurt more frequently than most other positions. I wouldn't be totally shocked to see them take another one later today to serve primarily as a short yardage and goal line specialist, assuming that Moss is on the way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Haven’t read through this thread but I think Duke Johnson’s days are numbered as a Buffalo Bill. Cook will fill the role of 3rd down and passing game back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 9 hours ago, gobills404 said: Wait a minute. How can this be ? I just read on this thread that all Georgia did was play weak SEC teams like Vanderbilt? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Is this a guy you can leave on the field all 3 downs? Can he block? I absolutely love the way his brother plays. I’m cautiously optimistic that we end up with a guy close to what Dalvin is. A legitimate difference maker at RB is something that can absolutely get us over the hump IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, eball said: Haven’t read through this thread but I think Duke Johnson’s days are numbered as a Buffalo Bill. Cook will fill the role of 3rd down and passing game back. I think it’ll be Johnson vs. Moss regardless. Singletary and Cook are locks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 This might be the one offense where Cook is a legitimate starter. Scouts say he’s decent as pass pro as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I think it’ll be Johnson vs. Moss regardless. Singletary and Cook are locks. You may be right. Moss better show some significant improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 LT and MJD gushing over the James Cook fit in Buffalo on NFLN. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Is this a guy you can leave on the field all 3 downs? Can he block? I absolutely love the way his brother plays. I’m cautiously optimistic that we end up with a guy close to what Dalvin is. A legitimate difference maker at RB is something that can absolutely get us over the hump IMO He could be an every down player if used more like a WR (and that's probably how they'll use him), but I wouldn't expect him to be a 15-20 carry per game kind of guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Well Miss is still cheap so he just was pushed down the depth chart, not gone. If that guy wants to stay on the team, he’s better embrace ST’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 14 hours ago, ScottLaw said: RBs and defense. Bummer. Thought you wanted weapons for Josh? There's no universe where an explosive pass-catching back that can split out wide and run routes isn't that. 4 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 51 minutes ago, BurpleBull said: I don't agree that he runs the ball very well, that's why I don't think he should've been drafted in the 2nd. He didn't need to be an every down work-horse, I just needed to see other qualities traditionally associated with really good RBs. I literally don't see anything outside of speed and pass-catching, and it isn't even blazing speed. It’s blazing acceleration, suddenness and route running. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 14 hours ago, ScottLaw said: Bills going to run the ball a ***** ton this season.😅 This comment shows your lack of familiarity with James Cook. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, Logic said: This comment shows your lack of familiarity with James Cook. Live near Athens. Cook is a great pick. Has slot receiver abilities. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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