LEBills Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Pickens is going to be the best WR of the draft class. agree and that’s Hill he abused, though he didn’t do a ton in that game just coming off his ACL injury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 32 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: One doesn't draft a slot corner in the 1st....or does one? Are you on the wrong fan site? Of course we do! We even draft the 2nd ranked undersized safety at #8. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, LEBills said: agree and that’s Hill he abused, though he didn’t do a ton in that game just coming off his ACL injury Ehh, I don’t make nothing out out that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Ehh, I don’t make nothing out out that play. nah it’s just funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, LEBills said: I do think Dax is the better player, but I think Pitre is really good and McDermott values players that played for coaches he or his coaching staff know - Rousseau and Doyle come to mind. I would be good with Daxton, especially if they can get George Pickens in the following round. Pickens didn't really do anything special there. He pushed over a DB who was locked in on pass defense, was solely focused on the WR running a pass route, and got caught off balance in his backpedal. Just saying. I also wouldn't be surprised if we took a guy like Hill in the 1st with the intent of him playing an outside CB position, then take a guy like Nick Cross from Maryland to play S in this defense in the 3rd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigdaddyinOrlando Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s a safety who can play corner, outside or inside. While I don’t see him filling the role that Kiper does -barring injury - he would be great pick for the Bills current and future needs in the secondary. Agree and if he is selected seems to me to be the Poyer replacement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthekeg Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I would love this pick. If they take him to play CB this year opposite of Tre and then get another vet in after the draft. Then if talks don't go well with Poyer they have a plan at S already on the team. He could slide into that role and save them a ton of headaches and drama if he is that type of player everyone expects, can never have enough good DBs on a team, and with injuries he could also play that Nickel role if anything happens to Johnson. I feel the same about drafting a LB this year higher than most would like (2nd or 3rd with Muma or Andersen). Best case scenario Edmunds becomes the All pro MLB and they have awesome cheap depth behind him and Milano for a few years. Worst case, Edmunds doesn't do anything, isn't resigned and they then have someone who has been in the system and is ready to step up next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Hill would definitely be one of those "we just can't help ourselves, we are a defense-first team" kinda' selections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17islongenough Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Who did Kiperv have the Bills picking in the 2nd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I am a fan of his, he can play CB2 without an issue, he is highly competitive against the pass...but he is also someone that can support the run and runs a sub 4.4 forty. He is the anti Wallace, physical, athletic and fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, Gregthekeg said: I would love this pick. If they take him to play CB this year opposite of Tre and then get another vet in after the draft. Then if talks don't go well with Poyer they have a plan at S already on the team. He could slide into that role and save them a ton of headaches and drama if he is that type of player everyone expects, can never have enough good DBs on a team, and with injuries he could also play that Nickel role if anything happens to Johnson. I feel the same about drafting a LB this year higher than most would like (2nd or 3rd with Muma or Andersen). Best case scenario Edmunds becomes the All pro MLB and they have awesome cheap depth behind him and Milano for a few years. Worst case, Edmunds doesn't do anything, isn't resigned and they then have someone who has been in the system and is ready to step up next year. Opportunity cost would be my concern with drafting LB so high. If we do then I think Edmunds is definitely gone. If youre drafting a back up LB on day 2 then you are missing out on developmental starters that will play at WR and iOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: Who did Kiperv have the Bills picking in the 2nd? Kenneth Walker. He went Pure Michigan (state of) Edited April 13, 2022 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I love this player. Kiper forgets we have Taron Johnson in the slot. I would love to see how McDermott uses Hill’s versatility. He can play anywhere in the secondary I believe on day 1. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2022/insider/story/_/id/33721368/nfl-mock-draft-2022-mel-kiper-new-predictions-top-64-picks-rounds-1-2-including-first-round-trade?platform=amp Funny that Kiper forgets about Taron, considering the Ravens are his favorite team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregthekeg Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: Opportunity cost would be my concern with drafting LB so high. If we do then I think Edmunds is definitely gone. If youre drafting a back up LB on day 2 then you are missing out on developmental starters that will play at WR and iOL. 100% agree but if they aren't satisfied with Edmunds play and they do this, the writing will be on the wall for other teams too. Maybe the can get a pick or a player for him after the draft or early in the preseason. Would love to also see what Edmunds does behind an actual DLine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Funny that Kiper forgets about Taron, considering the Ravens are his favorite team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Apparently the key to the Bills success is completely stacking the defense with high salary players and/or high draft picks while Josh Allen carries the offense… The Bills have plenty of offensive weapons for Allen. I’m not sure what you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: One doesn't draft a slot corner in the 1st....or does one? depends, if hes that good, or the Bills value his versatility enough that he can play corner now, and one day he can replace Poyer or Hyde. sadly, they wont be around forever. Edited April 13, 2022 by bigduke6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The Bills have plenty of offensive weapons for Allen. I’m not sure what you mean? Josh Allen takes a beating in order for the current Bills' offense to excel. You don't want that long term and you want to reduce the necessity for it in the playoffs. While anyone can see the cogency of Booth or maybe Hill in the first, the bulk of early round picks need to be used on offense, imo. Why not get a fella like Jameson Williams, though that probably means a trade up, or Christian Watson @25 to add a speed element to increase the stress the offense can put on the opposing defense. We should be so good that the opposing D is afraid, the way KC with Kelce and Hill allowed Mahomes to maximize his talent. The interior oline could use a Kenyon Green if he falls within a small trade up distance. In short, the default view that because of Josh Allen, we can continue to concentrate top picks on D is not sound. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 13, 2022 Author Share Posted April 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: No they don’t.… and I’d hardly say the offensive line is improved… How do you figure they don’t have offensive weapons for Allen? They can definitively improve the run game, and they have attempted through the OL coach and a top run blocker. 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: Josh Allen takes a beating in order for the current Bills' offense to excel. You don't want that long term and you want to reduce the necessity for it in the playoffs. While anyone can see the cogency of Booth or maybe Hill in the first, the bulk of early round picks need to be used on offense, imo. Why not get a fella like Jameson Williams, though that probably means a trade up, or Christian Watson @25 to add a speed element to increase the stress the offense can put on the opposing defense. We should be so good that the opposing D is afraid, the way KC with Kelce and Hill allowed Mahomes to maximize his talent. The interior oline could use a Kenyon Green if he falls within a small trade up distance. In short, the default view that because of Josh Allen, we can continue to concentrate top picks on D is not sound. Is Gabe Davis never going to get a chance? IOL could be upgraded sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: How do you figure they don’t have offensive weapons for Allen? They can definitively improve the run game, and they have attempted through the OL coach and a top run blocker. Is Gabe Davis never going to get a chance? IOL could be upgraded sure. I'm not discounting Davis. We still need to add to the WR room, imo. If someone like Booth is the pick in the first, George Pickens or Trey McBride ought to be second round targets you trade up to secure. Edited April 13, 2022 by Dr. Who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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