Big Turk Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) Really good breakdown... Both threw the ball from the 42 yard line on the opposite hash... Mac Jones ball took 3.1 seconds to get 1 yard deep in the end zone. Josh Allen's ball took 2.5 seconds to get 7 yards deep in the end zone. One was an INT, the other a TD. One of these things is not like the others... Edited April 9, 2022 by Big Turk 19 1 1 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Love it. Enjoy your career, McCorkle. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) Interestingly the AFC east have two noodle armed starting quarterbacks in Mac Jones and Teddy Bridgewater Edited April 9, 2022 by DJB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 @PatsFanNH will not like this blatant evidence. I’m sure he will stick to his guns that Belichick wants McCorkle over Allen. All kidding aside, this is exactly why guys like Jones and Fitz have the ceiling they do. They just don’t have the arm. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Really good breakdown... Both threw the ball from the 42 yard line on the opposite hash... Mac Jones ball took 3.1 seconds to get 1 yard deep in the end zone. Josh Allen's ball took 2.5 seconds to get 7 yards deep in the end zone. One was an INT, the other a TD. One of these things is not like the others... Lol I mean sure, but Mac’s ball a little more accurately placed outside is a TD. And Sanders was way more open. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybe Someday Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, DJB said: Interestingly the AFC east have two noodle armed starting quarterbacks in Mac Jones and Jacoby Brissett I think you mean Tua? Brissett plays for the Browns now and was the backup in Miami last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: Lol I mean sure, but Mac’s ball a little more accurately placed outside is a TD. And Sanders was way more open. Yes if McCorkle only had the arm to do that ha ? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 That’s why I was so optimistic even Josh’s rookie year. He’s so huge and his arm is so strong, that what looks like simple dump off for him is often a 25 plus yard dart downfield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, Maybe Someday said: I think you mean Tua? Brissett plays for the Browns now and was the backup in Miami last year. It was meant to be a joke but i was mistaken on Brissett / Teddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Has someone actually argued that arm strength doesn't matter at all? Has zero impact? I know that arm strength is only ONE factor, but of course it matters. This seems like a straw man argument to me. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: @PatsFanNH will not like this blatant evidence. I’m sure he will stick to his guns that Belichick wants McCorkle over Allen. All kidding aside, this is exactly why guys like Jones and Fitz have the ceiling they do. They just don’t have the arm. Literally no coach ever would want MJ10 over Allen. Suggesting otherwise is idiocy. 46 minutes ago, FireChans said: Lol I mean sure, but Mac’s ball a little more accurately placed outside is a TD. And Sanders was way more open. Or of the ball wasn't a Super Tecmo Bowl lollipop throw and got there a half second sooner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 I agree with your video and stat post. However! Bills fans and NFL fans would say, that was a ridiculous closing speed interception & perception by Hyde!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, FireChans said: Lol I mean sure, but Mac’s ball a little more accurately placed outside is a TD. And Sanders was way more open. I don't think he was any more open. Hyde was able to close & make the INT cuz he was moving (much) faster than the ball. Sanders (still) had no one near him cuz the ball got there so quickly. More outside might/probably would've done it but throwing the ball w/ more velocity & less arc definitely would've made it impossible to make a defensive play on it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 56 minutes ago, FireChans said: Lol I mean sure, but Mac’s ball a little more accurately placed outside is a TD. And Sanders was way more open. The Pats receiver would have been "way more open" too if Mac's pass got there in 2.5 seconds instead of 3.1. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Literally no coach ever would want MJ10 over Allen. Suggesting otherwise is idiocy. Or of the ball wasn't a Super Tecmo Bowl lollipop throw and got there a half second sooner? Yeah sure that would have helped. A more accurate ball would’ve helped too. Josh threw a dart but it was well behind Sanders. Good thing he was open and the ball got there fast. 13 minutes ago, eSJayDee said: I don't think he was any more open. Hyde was able to close & make the INT cuz he was moving (much) faster than the ball. Sanders (still) had no one near him cuz the ball got there so quickly. More outside might/probably would've done it but throwing the ball w/ more velocity & less arc definitely would've made it impossible to make a defensive play on it. Hyde is also in position because of the defensive alignment. Josh was throwing against single coverage outside. Jones was not. The Pats safety was nowhere close. 12 minutes ago, TPS said: The Pats receiver would have been "way more open" too if Mac's pass got there in 2.5 seconds instead of 3.1. Hyde made a great play but he was also helping over the top. The DB had no such help against Sanders. You can even see the safety 20 yards away. Edited April 9, 2022 by FireChans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, FireChans said: Yeah sure that would have helped. A more accurate ball would’ve helped too. Josh threw a dart but it was well behind Sanders. Good thing he was open and the ball got there fast. Hyde is also in position because of the defensive alignment. Josh was throwing against single coverage outside. Jones was not. The Pats safety was nowhere close. Hyde made a great play but he was also helping over the top. The DB had no such help against Sanders. You can even see the safety 20 yards away. Allen looks off the safety and his throw is freakish in that it has very little air under it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 1 hour ago, DJB said: Interestingly the AFC east have two noodle armed starting quarterbacks in Mac Jones and Teddy Bridgewater Two physically limited qbs and no major defensive changes after getting torched by josh Allen a bunch of times lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: Two physically limited qbs and no major defensive changes after getting torched by josh Allen a bunch of times lol No need for that they’ll go toe to toe with Allen ( this time 🤔) Edited April 9, 2022 by Putin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Allen looks off the safety and his throw is freakish in that it has very little air under it. Jones pump faked but it didn’t fool Hyde. I think it’s extremely oversimplifying it by saying it’s just arm strength is the difference between the two plays. Micah’s play was unreal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 9, 2022 Share Posted April 9, 2022 Here's the thing about arm strength.. it's overrated until you don't have enough It was the best attribute for John elway, and brett favre and Rodgers... The ability to uncork balls that defensive backs can't get to The velocity to whiz it past people's heads is huge at the NFL level 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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