Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 4/9/2022 at 9:18 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said: I think there’s a shot Tre White could switch to safety some point in the near future, ACL is a brutal injury for a CB. Everyone will respond differently from ACL injuries but Revis tore his and returned just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Everyone will respond differently from ACL injuries but Revis tore his and returned just fine. I am not saying Tre won’t be the same but i think Tre could have 3-4 high caliber years left tops and then also get a couple years out at Safety. It seems like 31/32 is the notorious drop off age for corners and only the speed guys seem to outlive that well. That’s not Tre’s game. Tre is a read and react type corner which requires strong knees and ankles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Locomark said: I am not saying Tre won’t be the same but i think Tre could have 3-4 high caliber years left tops and then also get a couple years out at Safety. It seems like 31/32 is the notorious drop off age for corners and only the speed guys seem to outlive that well. That’s not Tre’s game. Tre is a read and react type corner which requires strong knees and ankles. It’s question we’ll never have an answer to until he does or doesn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 He could walk besides Levi Wallace; terrible coverage Jordan took one of the worst angles on that Hill touchdown pass in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: He could walk besides Levi Wallace; terrible coverage Jordan took one of the worst angles on that Hill touchdown pass in the playoffs. He made a terrible read on that play. he was had one of the most effective coverage seasons any DB (at any position) has ever had in the history of the league. but one bad play and good bye. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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machine gun kelly Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 It was expected he wouldn’t be there for voluntary workouts. Things will get serious over the summer. My guess is they’ll give him a two year extension voidable after year 1 as he still has a year left as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) I like Poyer a lot but this is probably a guy you let walk after this season. Edited April 20, 2022 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 16 hours ago, NewEra said: He made a terrible read on that play. he was had one of the most effective coverage seasons any DB (at any position) has ever had in the history of the league. but one bad play and good bye. I also remember him and Hyde getting caught up in the traffic at the line on several of the long runs we gave up. Not sure if that is by design or what, but we must have been near the top of the league in long running plays given up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, DapperCam said: I also remember him and Hyde getting caught up in the traffic at the line on several of the long runs we gave up. Not sure if that is by design or what, but we must have been near the top of the league in long running plays given up. Yeah, they were bad. Get rid of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 12 hours ago, benderbender said: Worth remembering that a number of prominent players weren't present last off-season (Diggs). The first part of OTAs is classroom and workouts only, and some of these guys feel they can work out better off-site with their own favored trainers and routines. That said, pretty sure in this instance it will be contract related. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Correct - neither Hyde nor Poyer have great speed, both just decent speed. Their strength is their intelligence, correctly playing angles (usually) and lining up the others players on D (with edmunds). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Worth remembering that a number of prominent players weren't present last off-season (Diggs). The first part of OTAs is classroom and workouts only, and some of these guys feel they can work out better off-site with their own favored trainers and routines. That said, pretty sure in this instance it will be contract related. Yeah I’m guessing this is contract related too. I also remember reading rumors that Poyer almost held out of training camp the last time he wanted a new deal and Hyde talked him out of it. It’ll be very interesting to see if he shows for the mandatory offseason stuff without a new deal. Especially with Rachael in his ear… lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) This is starting to get irritating seeing NFL players do this if it is indeed contract related. You signed a contract, why should you be able to try and change the terms of the contract that YOU signed by holding out? If you think you’ll be worth more in a few years, negotiate a contract for less years. Anyone in the real world who signs a contract has to live up to it or they get fired. I get it’s different but the sense of entitlement these guys have is annoying. Edited April 20, 2022 by Motor26 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBD Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Motor26 said: This is starting to get irritating seeing NFL players do this if it is indeed contract related. You signed a contract, why should you be able to try and change the terms of the contract that YOU signed by holding out? If you think you’ll be worth more in a few years, negotiate a contract for less years. Anyone in the real world who signs a contract has to live up to it or they get fired. I get it’s different but the sense of entitlement these guys have is annoying. He's technically not holding out - these are optional practices. Which was also negotiated. I think that's important. Edited April 20, 2022 by CBD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, CBD said: He's technically not holding out - these are optional practices. Which was also negotiated. I think that's important. I know, I’m speaking to more of the NFL as a whole, and if Poyer does eventually hold out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Turbo44 said: Correct - neither Hyde nor Poyer have great speed, both just decent speed. Their strength is their intelligence, correctly playing angles (usually) and lining up the others players on D (with edmunds). their strengths are the extremely favorable schedule of playing 2nd, 3rd, 4th string and rookie QBs. sorry… I’m salty and feel both are overrated and regularly exposed when playing any QB/Offense of Veteran-Legit quality. Feell buffalo can still be between 10-12 wins by giving up 20-23 points per game with newer, younger and cheaper players than paying either Poyer or Hyde. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Motor26 said: This is starting to get irritating seeing NFL players do this if it is indeed contract related. You signed a contract, why should you be able to try and change the terms of the contract that YOU signed by holding out? If you think you’ll be worth more in a few years, negotiate a contract for less years. Anyone in the real world who signs a contract has to live up to it or they get fired. I get it’s different but the sense of entitlement these guys have is annoying. Well, the teams sign the contact too, and they can cut the player at any time, so that one goes both ways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, cle23 said: Well, the teams sign the contact too, and they can cut the player at any time, so that one goes both ways. Yeah it's not like the contracts are fully guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I really love JP21...But to me this is kind of...Whatever...He's got a year left. He's not going to hold out...And if he does, his loss...This team is winning a SB with or without JP21...And he owes it to himself to be a BIG part of that... And I say that with all due respect because I really like the player. I'm a big fan. But there's no way the Bills are going to make all these guys happy. Poyer is in his 30's now, his current 2022 cap hit is 6th overall on the roster. If they ride 2022 out, JP will have earned 34.7 million over 6 years in Buffalo. I think that's fair...So...We'll see... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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