The Christian Wade experiment

[Milanos Milano]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Dont know why this guy couldn't make the field, he clearly had elite athletic talent and could have been the fast back we need for explosive plays. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes.

 

 

My guess is we plan on drafting one, and we likely keep Singletary and Moss. Releasing Moss would be admitting to a mistake in the 3rd, it wasn’t happening even if it should have. My guess is Wade will land somewhere. 

[Milanos Milano]

Honestly a totally mismanaged RB just like Spiller. You find ways to incorporate this kind of athleticism, even if they can’t block or do certain RB tasks. 

 

 

You watch these clips, and there is no way you can tell me Moss can do those things. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Honestly a totally mismanaged RB just like Spiller. You find ways to incorporate this kind of athleticism, even if they can’t block or do certain RB tasks. 

 

 

You watch these clips, and there is no way you can tell me Moss can do those things. 

 

they have him number 45 because they knew he wasn't going to see the field for them.

 

 

[Malazan]

7 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Honestly a totally mismanaged RB just like Spiller. You find ways to incorporate this kind of athleticism, even if they can’t block or do certain RB tasks. 

 

 

You watch these clips, and there is no way you can tell me Moss can do those things. 

Have you considered a break for your own mental health? 

[Milanos Milano]

The NFL feels like a who’s who club anyways. Wade had athleticism and pure burst out of the backfield I haven’t seen since the spiller years. This actually makes me mad that Moss is on this team but somehow Wade isn’t. Moss is like a banana slug. 

[Milanos Milano]

7 minutes ago, Malazan said:

Have you considered a break for your own mental health? 

LOL I’m a Bills fan, so it’s already like being institutionalized. Where we let players like Teller go and draft Ford, Moss, Maybin, and so many others. We couldn’t get Spiller out in space, but we love running Moss up the middle for 2 yards. Is it any wonder we haven’t won a super bowl? 

[Malazan]

1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said:

The NFL feels like a who’s who club anyways. Wade had athleticism and pure burst out of the backfield I haven’t seen since the spiller years. This actually makes me mad that Moss is on this team but somehow Wade isn’t. Moss is like a banana slug. 

 

1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said:

LOL I’m a Bills fan, so it’s already like being institutionalized. Where we let players like Teller go and draft Ford, Moss, Maybin, and so many others. We couldn’t get Spiller out in space, but we love running Moss up the middle for 2 yards. Is it any wonder we haven’t won a super bowl? 

 

You might want to take a step back and analyze if what you see is reality. Wade's out there.. let's see all the teams that rush to put him on the field.

 

Maybe all 32 NFL teams have a bit of an idea of what's going on? 

 

Maybe..just maybe.. and I know this will sound crazy.. you might be wrong. 

Edited April 3, 2022 by Malazan

[Matt_In_NH]

6 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Honestly a totally mismanaged RB just like Spiller

Are you for real?

[Rochesterfan]

18 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Dude could run, sadly when we draft runners like Moss, things like this are questionable. Maybe Wade just couldn’t learn the nuances. Wade is a much better runner than Moss or even Singletary. Sad. Hope some other club picks him up. 
 

I would have much rather have kept Wade than Moss. But we know Beane wouldn’t do that because of ego and where he drafted Moss would be admitting to a mistake. 

 

Yeah - I mean has never cut a draft pick in his time and he typically chooses guys to play based on draft picks status rather than on the how they play on the field.

 

I mean I is not like Wade has come out and explained that he has struggled to learn the playbook and how intricate the plays are and where to go and what to do.  
 

It was all Beane’s Ego.

 

JHC dude - 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

ICE came calling at One Bills Drive? 🤔

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

8 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Dont know why this guy couldn't make the field, he clearly had elite athletic talent and could have been the fast back we need for explosive plays. I wish him the best of luck wherever he goes.

 

do you remember The Chroise Gibran Hamdan?

 

many a man has been made legendary by Bills Fans.  
 

 

[Seoulofstone]

   I wonder if he had his time over and had the choice between being a 3 year reserve with a protected spot and a guaranteed pay check or a chance at real snaps and being cut immediately-what would he have chosen?

 

  Obada was different because he made the 53 and got play time. Mostly the IPP seems like a great idea for taking a promising athlete and letting them wither on the bench. About as effective in practice as the Rooney rule.

  

 

[Rochesterfan]

2 hours ago, Seoulofstone said:

   I wonder if he had his time over and had the choice between being a 3 year reserve with a protected spot and a guaranteed pay check or a chance at real snaps and being cut immediately-what would he have chosen?

 

  Obada was different because he made the 53 and got play time. Mostly the IPP seems like a great idea for taking a promising athlete and letting them wither on the bench. About as effective in practice as the Rooney rule.

  

 

 

Mostly the IPP gives a player growing up in a different culture a chance to learn American Football and in a few cases actual make it to a team.

 

Without the IPP - these guys are not only not getting a protected spot, but they are not getting an opportunity at all.

 

Wade without the IPP - never get a sniff of a football field.  He even states after his 3 years he was still fundamentally learning how to handle the position.  He made friends, learned about training and American Football needs, married his American wife, and got paid doing all of that.

 

I don’t know how effective you expect it to be, but if anyone effectively makes the transition it is highly effective and when multiple people get a contract from the IPP - I think the NFL considers that a win for both international promotion and spreading of the game.

 

 

 

[Dan Darragh]

2 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

many a man has been made legendary by Bills Fans.  

Kiko made himself a legend, we just were witnesses

[Seoulofstone]

22 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Mostly the IPP gives a player growing up in a different culture a chance to learn American Football and in a few cases actual make it to a team.

 

Without the IPP - these guys are not only not getting a protected spot, but they are not getting an opportunity at all.

 

Wade without the IPP - never get a sniff of a football field.  He even states after his 3 years he was still fundamentally learning how to handle the position.  He made friends, learned about training and American Football needs, married his American wife, and got paid doing all of that.

 

I don’t know how effective you expect it to be, but if anyone effectively makes the transition it is highly effective and when multiple people get a contract from the IPP - I think the NFL considers that a win for both international promotion and spreading of the game.

 

 

 

 That’s kind of my point though. I am sure he is thankful. I’m sure he learned things.
 

But due to the rules of the IPP no matter what he did he couldn’t be promoted in season. If you bake it right down, the fact that IPP players can’t be promoted from the practice squad without being cut-pigeon holes them as developmental projects. Preseason becomes their only hope.

Ultimately he becomes no more than a footnote, and we will never know. plenty of people may think he was unworthy and they maybe right.
 

Im my view either way, It’s a pity that he never got to play in an actual game.

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

29 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

Kiko made himself a legend, we just were witnesses

😆.  
true but, 

the thing is,  Kiko was a starter and kicked ass in his first season before the injury 

 

The Chroise was a 3rd string QB at best and I don’t think ever saw real game action. 

 

Wade had some good preseason highlights 

 

(I was, am on the Wade should have been given a chance in a real game to see what he could actually do)

 

Edited April 3, 2022 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce

[HOUSE]

Christian Wade and Duke Williams have one thing in common, both looked pretty good but were seldom used. I suppose this is a good thing, the Bills a deep in talent.

[Tuco]

1 hour ago, Seoulofstone said:

 That’s kind of my point though. I am sure he is thankful. I’m sure he learned things.
 

But due to the rules of the IPP no matter what he did he couldn’t be promoted in season. If you bake it right down, the fact that IPP players can’t be promoted from the practice squad without being cut-pigeon holes them as developmental projects. Preseason becomes their only hope.

Ultimately he becomes no more than a footnote, and we will never know. plenty of people may think he was unworthy and they maybe right.
 

Im my view either way, It’s a pity that he never got to play in an actual game.

 

 

But this isn't entirely true. Yes, as the IPP player he was subject to the rules. But Wade had the choice every year to go out and find a team that wanted him. You don't just take a player from the off season 90 man roster and "assign" them to the practice squad. Not even an IPP player.

 

At the final 53 cut down, Wade had to be kept on the 53 or cut and subject to waivers just like every other player. He was cut and nobody claimed him in any of his years. That made him an unrestricted free agent every year, just like any other cut and unclaimed player. And he was free to sign with any team's 53 man roster, or any team's regular practice squad if any team wanted him as such - including Buffalo. And his 3rd and final option, as an IPP player, was to sign with Buffalo's practice squad as an exempted IPP player, knowing at that time he signed he wouldn't be able to be called up during the season.

 

Wade made the decision to sign to the PS as an IPP player rather than stay a free agent and hope some team would pick him up every time. I guessing he knew more about his situation than most of us.

 

And this last sentence isn't necessarily aimed at you. But a lot of people were always complaining that the Bills were holding Wade back by keeping him as an IPP player and not letting him go to another team. Wade had his chances to go to any other team every year. Yet he either chose to stay on as an IPP player because he liked it and had a steady paycheck, or, very likely, because no other team wanted him as a regular player.

Edited April 3, 2022 by Tuco

[Seoulofstone]

30 minutes ago, Tuco said:

 

But this isn't entirely true. Yes, as the IPP player he was subject to the rules. But Wade had the choice every year to go out and find a team that wanted him. You don't just take a player from the off season 90 man roster and "assign" them to the practice squad. Not even an IPP player.

 

At the final 53 cut down, Wade had to be kept on the 53 or cut and subject to waivers just like every other player. He was cut and nobody claimed him in any of his years. That made him an unrestricted free agent every year, just like any other cut and unclaimed player. And he was free to sign with any team's 53 man roster, or any team's regular practice squad if any team wanted him as such - including Buffalo. And his 3rd and final option, as an IPP player, was to sign with Buffalo's practice squad as an exempted IPP player, knowing at that time he signed he wouldn't be able to be called up during the season.

 

Wade made the decision to sign to the PS as an IPP player rather than stay a free agent and hope some team would pick him up every time. I guessing he knew more about his situation than most of us.

 

And this last sentence isn't necessarily aimed at you. But a lot of people were always complaining that the Bills were holding Wade back by keeping him as an IPP player and not letting him go to another team. Wade had his chances to go to any other team every year. Yet he either chose to stay on as an IPP player because he liked it and had a steady paycheck, or, very likely, because no other team wanted him as a regular player.

  Certainly he was free to become a free agent-no argument with that. I don’t mean this as a criticism of the Bills or Wade, but rather the IPP rules.
 

 My annoyance is more that the IPP creates an in season glass ceiling. The argument that this gives the player a time to stick around and learn may make sense in theory but in practice has not worked, with the exception of Obada who had to be cut to waivers before he could be promoted to the panthers 53.

 

 If your goal is to give opportunities to international players, creating a situation where they have to lose their job before they are eligible for an opportunity strikes me as odd.

If it’s just for show- what’s the point?

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

In retrospect, it's probably a shame that Wade wound up signing with the Bills. He signed before the 2019 season, which was, of course, the beginning of The Bills Are Officially Good era. There just isn't any room to experiment by activating a guy like him off the PS when you're in a surprising playoff hunt (2019), much less when you're expecting to be a real playoff contender (2020-2021). Unfortunately, he's now 3 years older and minimally more NFL experienced. 

He's a fun story, and from that one preseason moment of glory, looks like he'd be a lot of fun to watch.

Jaguars, do you really, really need to keep that kick return specialist on your 2022 roster? Because there's a guy out there that would get you some nice media coverage in your owner's beloved England ...