julian Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, NewEra said: No, I’m not. I’m talking about a super bowl run. A super bowl run in which we can use as many good pass rushers as we can get. Right now, we have one great pass rusher at end, 1 guy we hope we will be great (but good is his likely ceiling imo), 2 guys that have shown next to nothing and a minimum salary castoff that is better than the 2 guys that have shown next to nothing. I’m not talking about development. I’m talking about adding talent for the 2022 super bowl run. Playing the best talent possible. Basham, epenesa and Shaq are all lesser than Jerry. Jerry would make out team better. Period That is not comparing apples to oranges unless you change the conversation. I made a comment, you cranked out a bunch of reasons why they shouldn’t sign him and said that it doesn’t make sense for either party…..and that’s untrue. Make up some nonsense than accuse me of exaggerating…. Not surprised You think right. But he has to use that as support for his argument that “it makes not sense for either the bills or Jerry”…..even though it doesn’t support it at all. I’m not so sure Hughes gives you more production this year, a year older and a year slower than Rousseau Basham or Epenesa. Improvement in years 2 and year 3 for the young ends is very possible. If Hughes was a drastic slam dunk advantage over any of those guys then I’d agree with bringing him back. But Hughes is just an average older DE at this point and that’s probably being kind 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 32 minutes ago, julian said: I’m not so sure Hughes gives you more production this year, a year older and a year slower than Rousseau Basham or Epenesa. Improvement in years 2 and year 3 for the young ends is very possible. If Hughes was a drastic slam dunk advantage over any of those guys then I’d agree with bringing him back. But Hughes is just an average older DE at this point and that’s probably being kind Maybe so, though I would honestly give him a shot if I needed another situational DE on the roster. If there is no space on the roster, it is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I think He was a little sarcastic I don't think the bills have much hope at all for Cody Ford besides maybe being a swing guard Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane Maybe. But even if he was, there's truth in the sarcasm. You don't spend a 2nd and a 5th on someone and then not give them every opportunity to validate the investment. Teams don't throw away premium picks within the first two rounds for nothing. Cody is being given his 4th opportunity, though he has to earn it this season. To not develop and label guys as "JAG's" before their 2nd or 3rd years in Epenesa and Basham after making such an investment in is not how GMs operate. Edited May 10, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 (edited) Appreciate all that Hughes has done for Buffalo but it’s time to move on. No one ever questioned his work ethic or passion. He gave it his all and glad he’s helped turn the franchise around. My top three highlights are: 1. His TD return against the Broncos 2. Chasing the ref up the tunnel 3. Getting a bogus fathom 15 yard penalty against NE after stopping them on 3rd down for hitting another Bills players helmet in celebration. Ref said he was hitting a NE player. Pure 100% BS https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2014/10/16/6985297/jerry-hughes-penalty-bills-patriots-2014 Edited May 10, 2022 by TFBillsfan 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 hours ago, julian said: I’m not so sure Hughes gives you more production this year, a year older and a year slower than Rousseau Basham or Epenesa. Improvement in years 2 and year 3 for the young ends is very possible. If Hughes was a drastic slam dunk advantage over any of those guys then I’d agree with bringing him back. But Hughes is just an average older DE at this point and that’s probably being kind Hughes gives you that one important aspect that the others don’t have, experience. Like @NewErasaid, look at those Chiefs games. Hughes was constantly turning that corner making Mahomes move around in the pocket. Any type of push from the middle would’ve resulted in sacks. The Rams had Leonard Floyd on the other side of Von Miller. I’d like to see Hughes for one more run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted May 10, 2022 Author Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, TFBillsfan said: Appreciate all that Hughes has done for Buffalo but it’s time to move on. No one ever questioned his work ethic or passion. He gave it his all and glad he’s helped turn the franchise around. My top three highlights are: 1. His TD return against the Broncos 2. Chasing the ref up the tunnel 3. Getting a bogus fathom 15 yard penalty against NE after stopping them on 3rd down for hitting another Bills players helmet in celebration. Ref said he was hitting a NE player. Pure 100% BS https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2014/10/16/6985297/jerry-hughes-penalty-bills-patriots-2014 How did you leave out fitting first ballot Hall Of Famer Joe Thomas for a dress in the Cleveland game where he was literally unlockable...numerous instances but the obvious one was when he was being held on a play by Thomas, still broke free and tackled the running back behind the LOS, stripped the ball, recovered the fumble and then ran it in for a TD? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 8:32 PM, Steptide said: Is he a free agent currently? Yes, he's still a Free Agent. Which speaks to what the rest of the league thinks of what he offers at this point in his career. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Yes, he's still a Free Agent. Which speaks to what the rest of the league thinks of what he offers at this point in his career. Not necessarily. We have no idea what conversations his agent has had with Buffalo or any other teams. I’m pretty sure Jerry has something very specific he’s looking for if he is going to keep playing. I’m guessing he doesn’t want to take a vet minimum (or close to it) deal to play with a team that is not a Super Bowl contender. If Buffalo doesn’t want him back, I’d give it better than 50/50 odds he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Hughes gives you that one important aspect that the others don’t have, experience. Like @NewErasaid, look at those Chiefs games. Hughes was constantly turning that corner making Mahomes move around in the pocket. Any type of push from the middle would’ve resulted in sacks. The Rams had Leonard Floyd on the other side of Von Miller. I’d like to see Hughes for one more run That’s valid, it’s possible with Von on the other side that Hughes is excited and finds another gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Looks like he's returning home to join the Texans and play with Addison as well based on some reports on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Well, I whiffed on that one. I guess it's a return home for Jerry, which sorta makes sense. He also won't face the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Nine seasons in Buffalo .... missed ONE game. Great Bill and I'm sad to see him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Looks like Hughes was saying good bye to his career ... by signing with the Texans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 has not lived up to his contract last 7 seasons.....averaged under 5 sacks/yr during that period last good years were 2013 & 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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