78thealltimegreat Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 It’s obvious he’s the next in line for a big payday as I think it would be very difficult to trade the best player the franchise has had since Ray Lewis. So if Watson got 230 million guaranteed you have to think Lamar is using that as a starting point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Is his agent still his mom? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Is his agent still his mom? She'd probably be an upgrade. He represents himself. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 minute ago, John Adams said: She'd probably be an upgrade. He represents himself. Wow.....he is soooooooo screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: It’s obvious he’s the next in line for a big payday as I think it would be very difficult to trade the best player the franchise has had since Ray Lewis. So if Watson got 230 million guaranteed you have to think Lamar is using that as a starting point. The browns gave watson a desperation contract and everyone knows that. Lamar will surely ask for that deal but Ravens will give him a bit more than the Allen deal imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) It was interesting as I listened to guys from the Owners meeting talking about QB contracts and LJ. Basically - the premise is that according to the CBA any guaranteed money in the contract has to be placed immediately in an escrow account and is not available to the owner after that point. It prevents an owner from going bankrupt and the NFL being on the hook for the money. In talking with Baltimore owners and front office - the reporter basically came out and said they did not want to tie that much money into an escrow account to have the huge guaranteed money like Watson. He is fine doing a big contract, but wants only a fraction 25% or less guaranteed. The reporters were saying they expect this to be a Kirk Cousins style showdown where they franchise tag him at least twice and then look to trade him rather than tie upwards of 230 million into an escrow. It bears watching because they said they got similar vibes from Arizona and Cincinnati ownership with the guaranteed money. They expect at least 2 of these 3 franchises will end up franchising and trading their QB to avoid the 100% guaranteed contract. Edited March 30, 2022 by Rochesterfan 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 If I'm Lamar, I'm pushing for maximum guaranteed dollars over total money. So much of his value as a QB is tied to his legs, and not only is that the first thing to diminish, but one bad hit or juke and it could be over in an instant. Of course the Ravens know this, but unless they plan on drafting a replacement over the next year or two, what are they gonna do? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/29/steve-bisciotti-lamar-jackson-approach-to-contract-unique-as-hell/ Apparently Lamar doesn't want an extension right now? The kid is so obsessed with winning a Super Bowl, that I think deep down, he doesn’t think he’s worthy. I think he wants that to say, ‘Now, I deserve to be on top,'” Bisciotti said. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: It was interesting as I listened to guys from the Owners meeting talking about QB contracts and LJ. Basically - the premise is that according to the CBA any guaranteed money in the contract has to be placed immediately in an escrow account and is not available to the owner after that point. It prevents an owner from going bankrupt and the NFL being on the hook for the money. In talking with Baltimore owners and front office - the reporter basically came out and said they did not want to tie that much money into an escrow account to have the huge guaranteed money like Watson. He is fine doing a big contract, but wants only a fraction 25% or less guaranteed. The reporters were saying they expect this to be a Kirk Cousins style showdown where they franchise tag him at least twice and then look to trade him rather than tie upwards of 230 million into an escrow. It bears watching because they said they got similar vibes from Arizona and Cincinnati ownership with the guaranteed money. They expect at least 2 of these 3 franchises will end up franchising and trading their QB to avoid the 100% guaranteed contract. I didn't know that rule. It's interesting because there is no way that Mike Brown is putting $200 million in an escrow account because he doesn't have it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Jackson is gonna get paid!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/29/steve-bisciotti-lamar-jackson-approach-to-contract-unique-as-hell/ Apparently Lamar doesn't want an extension right now? The kid is so obsessed with winning a Super Bowl, that I think deep down, he doesn’t think he’s worthy. I think he wants that to say, ‘Now, I deserve to be on top,'” Bisciotti said. I think that the same could be said about a lot of players, but that's why you hire an agent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 So wait, top QB's getting fully guaranteed contracts is the new normal? SMH. Good thing they got Josh's done last year. Stupid Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Franchise tag next year....whatever that number is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I wouldn't pay him.....he's one knee injury away from having to be a pass first QB, which he will never be. I'm glad its Baltimore who will be saddled with a ridiculous contract for a QB who is average at best in the passing game. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/03/29/steve-bisciotti-lamar-jackson-approach-to-contract-unique-as-hell/ Apparently Lamar doesn't want an extension right now? The kid is so obsessed with winning a Super Bowl, that I think deep down, he doesn’t think he’s worthy. I think he wants that to say, ‘Now, I deserve to be on top,'” Bisciotti said. That's either really dumb, or complete BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 If I am Lamar Jackson I would grab an agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: That's either really dumb, or complete BS. A reporter might say that but I don't think the owner would say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I'll guess 4 years 200mm with 75mm guaranteed. Ravens have potential outs every year Lamar has never struck me as a book smart person, and going into this without an agent I think he'll go for a deal that has a huge total number and ignore the small guaranteed number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warcodered said: That's either really dumb, or complete BS. It's honestly pretty damning of the kid's judgment/decision-making. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I worry Lamar might end up getting screwed like Gordie Howe, making a fraction of what he should have, because he doesn't have anyone who understands the money game looking out for him. He needs to get a real agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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