SoMAn Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Is it general knowledge whether or not Josh was the 2018 QB prospect Beane and McD wanted from the get-go? I can't remember if it's actually been revealed by anyone from inside the Bills organization. It would be interesting to know how they had each of the 5 QBs rated. Obviously, they had Josh ahead of Rosen and Jackson. Now Darnold and Rosen are both busts, and the overall # 1 Mayfield is about to get traded for nothing or get cut. It's clear now that even throwing Jackson into the mix, Allen was the best choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 They were down to Allen and Darnold and I have that on very good authority. If it wasn't one of those 2 they were trading back and taking Rudolph or Lauletta later on. Everything the Bills have said leads me to believe that of the two Allen was their guy. But had Allen gone in the top 2 and Darnold had fallen he would have been the pick. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 It’s general knowledge they had a trade agreed on with Denver to move up to #5 so long as Bradley Chubb wasn’t there. I believe it was picks 12, 22 and 53 to move up to 5. Obviously Chubb went to Denver, which caused them to move up to #7 with Tampa. There have been leaked images of their board, the plan was always to move up for Allen. Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen, Rudolph and Lauletta were their supposed top 6 - in that order. 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: They were down to Allen and Darnold and I have that on very good authority. If it wasn't one of those 2 they were trading back and taking Rudolph or Lauletta later on. Everything the Bills have said leads me to believe that of the two Allen was their guy. But had Allen gone in the top 2 and Darnold had fallen he would have been the pick. Sam Darnold will be our backup QB by the end of free agency next year. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: It’s general knowledge they had a trade agreed on with Denver to move up to #5 so long as Bradley Chubb wasn’t there. I believe it was picks 12, 22 and 53 to move up to 5. Obviously Chubb went to Denver, which caused them to move up to #7 with Tampa. There have been leaked images of their board, the plan was always to move up for Allen. Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen, Rudolph and Lauletta were their supposed top 6 - in that order. 8 3 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Wiz said: They didn’t even view Lamar as a QB haha 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I believe I read somewhere that after they met with Josh in Wyoming they decided he was the guy they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I've always heard that from the time of the face to face meeting in Wyoming the Pegulas wanted Allen. Guess he had them at hello 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They were down to Allen and Darnold and I have that on very good authority. If it wasn't one of those 2 they were trading back and taking Rudolph or Lauletta later on. Everything the Bills have said leads me to believe that of the two Allen was their guy. But had Allen gone in the top 2 and Darnold had fallen he would have been the pick. And if they had taken Darnold we would very likely be looking for a QB yet again, it nice that fate rolled in our direction, isn’t it, now we talk about CB & OL being needs, 👍 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: And if they had taken Darnold we would very likely be looking for a QB yet again, it nice that fate rolled in our direction, isn’t it, now we talk about CB & OL PUNTER being needs, 👍 OK - maybe we need a CB and an IOL too! lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, SoMAn said: Is it general knowledge whether or not Josh was the 2018 QB prospect Beane and McD wanted from the get-go? I can't remember if it's actually been revealed by anyone from inside the Bills organization. It would be interesting to know how they had each of the 5 QBs rated. Obviously, they had Josh ahead of Rosen and Jackson. Now Darnold and Rosen are both busts, and the overall # 1 Mayfield is about to get traded for nothing or get cut. It's clear now that even throwing Jackson into the mix, Allen was the best choice. Not sure but I know they were trying to trade up with Denver and would have done so if Bradley Chubb was not there. Broncos told them if he was there the deal was off and they were taking him. Bills then scrambled with TB to get ahead of other teams that were trying to move up as well. Also heard they might have been trying to trade with the Colts prior to the Jets but didn't like the price tag it would take to move up. Not sure if that was just a rumor or there were some legs behind that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 They should be commended for their ranking and targeting of Allen. They also got incredibly lucky - TWICE - first by having Mahomes fall to them and then by having Allen fall to them. It's incredible when you think about it. 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: They should be commended for their ranking and targeting of Allen. They also got incredibly lucky - TWICE - first by having Mahomes fall to them and then by having Allen fall to them. It's incredible when you think about it. Mahomes was considered a reach at 10 at the time. 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I believe I read somewhere that after they met with Josh in Wyoming they decided he was the guy they wanted. Yes, it's been reported that the Pegulas were particularly smitten with Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoMAn Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: And if they had taken Darnold we would very likely be looking for a QB yet again, it nice that fate rolled in our direction, isn’t it, now we talk about CB & OL being needs, 👍 After decades of futility with average to sub-par QBs, fate did indeed come our way after 20+ years. The domino effect is astounding. Because of the early success with Diggs and the culture cultivated by McD and Beane, the word is out around the NFL player community that Buffalo is a desirable destination. Next thing, it's top talent like Von Miller. And there will be more. Success breeds success. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I think Josh was at the top of their list, followed by Darnold. Interestingly, it's rumored that the Browns top two were Mayfield and Allen. Thank God they chose the wrong one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 56 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: There have been leaked images of their board, the plan was always to move up for Allen. Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen, Rudolph and Lauletta were their supposed top 6 - in that order. That leaked image was not their board. Mayfield and Rosen were off the final board. It might well have been a ranking at a point in the process, it was not the final board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: And if they had taken Darnold we would very likely be looking for a QB yet again, it nice that fate rolled in our direction, isn’t it, now we talk about CB & OL being needs, 👍 Do you think if that was the case McD and Bean would still be here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: They were down to Allen and Darnold and I have that on very good authority. If it wasn't one of those 2 they were trading back and taking Rudolph or Lauletta later on. Everything the Bills have said leads me to believe that of the two Allen was their guy. But had Allen gone in the top 2 and Darnold had fallen he would have been the pick. I remember listening to Brandon Beane when he was talking about the QBs and he said accuracy wasn’t that big of an issue for them cause of the system they where installing. Leads me to believe that Allen was their guy all along. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 I'm still amazed that we got Allen. Meaning, of all the qbs in that draft, Allen is the absolute best, and not only the best in that draft, but maybe the top qb in the league today. Lamar is obviously very good too, but overall I think Allen is a better qb 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Putin said: Do you think if that was the case McD and Bean would still be here? I think they'd have still made at least a couple of playoff appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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