Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: If Rick bates is the crown jewel of belichick’s FA class, I’m certain that McDermott will do an Irish jig I would PPV to see McDermott dance a jig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Bates currently slated at $2.4 million cap hit. Bills can go a little higher but not much. Let’s see how this contract is structured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: This is what I figured all along. They have like 25 mil in cap space, their new GM is a line guy, and they have a QB on a rookie contract so they can overspend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Curious what other teams value him at. Idk. Seems like an alright player if he can get multiple years over the 2.5 he should and idk if Buffalo should match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bates currently slated at $2.4 million cap hit. Bills can go a little higher but not much. Let’s see how this contract is structured. The bills can go as high as they feel he’s worth. They just needs to restructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Saffold is a LG, which makes Bates expendable. If Bates signs with the Bears, the Bills will more than likely bring Daryl Williams back at a lower rate and keep the same line they had last year, albeit with Saffold in over Bates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bates currently slated at $2.4 million cap hit. Bills can go a little higher but not much. Let’s see how this contract is structured. If they want to keep him, Beane will have a plan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popcornpam Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: If they want to keep him, Beane will have a plan Josh should call Beane and tell him to match it! He knows how good he is! Just look at last year‘s games when he came in. I worry about the team‘s chemistry a lot of new pieces this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, popcornpam said: Josh should call Beane and tell him to match it! He knows how good he is! Just look at last year‘s games when he came in. I worry about the team‘s chemistry a lot of new pieces this year. Josh was the most pressured QB last season, including the 4 games in which Bates started. I think Josh should call Beane and say to get him a better oline in general. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, NewEra said: The bills can go as high as they feel he’s worth. They just needs to restructure Restructure other contracts you mean? I would release Matakevich. They have to have room first to match if it’s front loaded. We’ll see. 5 minutes ago, Motor26 said: Josh was the most pressured QB last season, including the 4 games in which Bates started. I think Josh should call Beane and say to get him a better oline in general. Do you have data on that? I felt the line was much better the last quarter of the season and in the playoffs. Spencer Brown seemed to be the weakest link at the end of the season. Edited March 24, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 days to match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 14 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said: Tough situation for Rick. Not guaranteed to start on a SB contender, despite being the singular piece that evolved the o-line from broken to effective in the last 1/3 of the season. I wish I could see what the Bills brass don't see in him to put him in this position. I prefer the Bills to fill CB and WR needs in the top 2 rounds. I really hope that they don't force their own hand by missing on Bates. I don’t see this as a tough situation. It’s a fantastic situation for him. He’s either going to get paid or play on the Super bowl contender. I would classify this as a tough decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So if he goes to the Bears, that 2.5M goes back to our available cap, correct? So we'd be around +8M? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I don’t see this as a tough situation. It’s a fantastic situation for him. He’s either going to get paid or play on the Super bowl contender. I would classify this as a tough decision. I think you meant "wouldn't". This does not seem like it will be a tough decision. First off, we hope the Bills just match the Bears offer, end of story, he's a Bill. I'm hoping internally the Bills have raised their price limit on what they would pay Bates. The KC/Hill fall out should be that the Bills spend a little more for the upcoming season now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, Einstein's Dog said: I think you meant "wouldn't". This does not seem like it will be a tough decision. First off, we hope the Bills just match the Bears offer, end of story, he's a Bill. I'm hoping internally the Bills have raised their price limit on what they would pay Bates. The KC/Hill fall out should be that the Bills spend a little more for the upcoming season now. Why though? If they don't match Bates, I trust Beane/Kromer in their view of the OL. Kromer running this group gives me a ton of confidence that they know what they're doing. I highly doubt losing Bates means Ford starts and our depth is Mancz, Capra and Doyle. Maybe they have some OL that Kromer loves in the Draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 It depends on the Bear contract. If they frontloaded it, the Bills probably don't match. For all we know, Bates could be viewed by the Bills brass the same way as Wallace obviously was - highly replacable. Also, with Bate's RG spot filled already, would he be as good at LG?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Beane still has egg on his face from the Teller fiasco. It says a lot that Bates generated this much interest as an RFA. My guess is that Beane finds out how much the guarantees are and signs Bates to a deal with similar guaranteed money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: 5 days to match I believe the Bills would make a decision sooner if they know they are not keeping him. They’ve run all the scenarios and have a plan. Probably will be front loaded and tough to keep him. Don’t know how much more restructuring Beans wants to do. Plus, he most likely wants some decent cap reserve for injuries. Don’t see him sitting at the available cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Hooks Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) I feel like they’ll use the five days wisely. Try and find a comparable guard for less or the same amount. If they can’t, they’ll sign Bates. Hopefully Bears didn’t offer too much to a guy that barely started. Edited March 24, 2022 by Bobby Hooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: Why though? If they don't match Bates, I trust Beane/Kromer in their view of the OL. Kromer running this group gives me a ton of confidence that they know what they're doing. I highly doubt losing Bates means Ford starts and our depth is Mancz, Capra and Doyle. Maybe they have some OL that Kromer loves in the Draft. I want them to bring back Bates because the line played its best ball with Bates in there. He brings continuity. If losing Bates doesn't mean Ford starts (or god forbid Mancz) then it means another hole to fill. I don't want holes, I want upgrades. I also don't want Kromer and his lust for a player altering the draft strategy of BPA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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