Sierra Foothills Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 14 hours ago, longtimebillsfan said: There is a reason Beane is where he is and we are providing our expert guidence on Two Bills Drive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 13 hours ago, dneveu said: I'm opposed to trading up for anyone in this draft. We need a ton of depth - LB, CB, WR, RB, OG, OT But will all that drafted depth actually make the 53-man roster? And if not, will they be poached (either when initially waived or as members of the PS)? That seems to be the debate around how to use this year's picks. There IS a case to be made for packaging picks to move up at some point in the 2022 draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: But will all that drafted depth actually make the 53-man roster? And if not, will they be poached (either when initially waived or as members of the PS)? That seems to be the debate around how to use this year's picks. There IS a case to be made for packaging picks to move up at some point in the 2022 draft. Our LB depth took a hit when we lost Klein, and as of today he has not been replaced. You also have to look to the future of possible life without Edmunds. Our Guard depth went from feliciano as next man up - to boettger and ford. They've played plenty but neither is who you want if someone goes down. Feliciano missed a bunch of time last year and we saw a bunch of these 2 and they stunk. Our tackle depth goes from Williams who can kick out to RT, to a 5th round pick in Doyle and no one else. Corner - lost wallace add jackson is honestly probably a wash to me, but they still need a player here if white isn't healthy enough to go as well as to push jackson. RB - Singletary is on an expiring, moss had a truly terrible year, johnson is a patch fill in. Could use some talent here but i'd hate it in the first. WR - Top 4 is fairly set, but behind diggs and davis is a ST guy and question marks. Gentry Hodgins Stevenson as options at WR5 on a team that is majority 3 wide. We're talking about pushing these guys off the roster: Dodson Ford Doyle (we need another tackle anyway) Lewis Moss Stevenson I don't think I really want any of them on the roster? Edited March 30, 2022 by dneveu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) Jameson Williams said today he expects to be cleared by training camp. He tore his acl 2 months after Tre. 8 months seems to be the new average for ACls without setbacks. 6 months is becoming more common however. Ive also read non contact tears are more clean. Edited March 30, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Jameson Williams said today he expects to be cleared by training camp. He tore his acl 2 months after Tre. 8 months seems to be the new average for ACls without setbacks. 6 months is becoming more common however. Ive also read non contact tears are more clean. Great news on one front, but not on the other. Been saying that Tre will likely be back sooner than most of us expected. However, Williams will now be out of our reach if he’s cleared that early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 9:30 AM, longtimebillsfan said: To answer the original question on this thread, trust Beane. He has consistently demonstrated that he has a plan. There is a reason Beane is where he is and we are providing our expert guidence on Two Bills Drive Amen 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Trade up and get the fastest/best CB available. This is our year, we can't blow the #1 seed because we lost a couple games in September because we didn't have a CB2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: However, Williams will now be out of our reach if he’s cleared that early. He was always gonna be out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: He was always gonna be out of reach. Disagree. There was a chance if there wasn’t a timeline on his recovery. Only certain teams have the benefit of being able to wait a few months…we are one of them. 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: Trade up and get the fastest/best CB available. This is our year, we can't blow the #1 seed because we lost a couple games in September because we didn't have a CB2. Even though it was our offense that lost a couple games in the middle of the season last year? Sorry. I disagree with this. Dane Jackson has two years in this system and he was the reason they didn’t draft a corner last year. They really like him. Can someone please remind me who had the number one defense last year and led the league in fewest tds allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 44 minutes ago, whorlnut said: Disagree. There was a chance if there wasn’t a timeline on his recovery. Only certain teams have the benefit of being able to wait a few months…we are one of them. Agree to disagree. Everyone knows the timeline for his injury. It was always a pipe dream amongst fans that he would fall to the Bills. In the real world he wasn't going to, nor will it ever happen. On draft day the conjecture disappears and NFL GM's aren't going to let it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Even though it was our offense that lost a couple games in the middle of the season last year? Sorry. I disagree with this. Dane Jackson has two years in this system and he was the reason they didn’t draft a corner last year. They really like him. Can someone please remind me who had the number one defense last year and led the league in fewest tds allowed? The offense lost games because the o-line was bad. Mostly due to injuries. By that logic, we should draft an o-lineman first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, DapperCam said: The offense lost games because the o-line was bad. Mostly due to injuries. By that logic, we should draft an o-lineman first. I would be ok with that. 1 hour ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Agree to disagree. Everyone knows the timeline for his injury. It was always a pipe dream amongst fans that he would fall to the Bills. In the real world he wasn't going to, nor will it ever happen. On draft day the conjecture disappears and NFL GM's aren't going to let it happen. So Jeffrey Simmons didn’t slip because of is acl tear? How about jaylon smith? Happens all the time. Simmons and smith were considered top 5 picks. The question is…where was he originally slated and how far will he fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 8:38 PM, Motor26 said: I like Dax Hill. Athletic enough to play outside corner full time, nickel, safety. Feel like McDermott would love him as a chess piece to move all over the defense. I think Dax Hill is a great sneaky pick. Weve been looking for a big nickel- maybe Dax is that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I could see the Bills swinging a trade for a CB. If Kenny Pickett is still on the board at 25 maybe New Orleans would trade up: Saints get #25 to draft Pickett. Bills get 2nd year CB from Stanford Paulson Adebo........who I think the Bills really liked in last years draft.........as well as pick #49 and #98(New Orleans first comp pick). Adebo was a big hit for New Orleans so maybe they would value him too high to use him in a trade up..........but this is the kind of thing that should be on the table for the Bills. It shouldn't just be about having to start a rookie or sign a tired vet if it's believed that White might not be ready to start the season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/29/2022 at 10:11 AM, dneveu said: I'm opposed to trading up for anyone in this draft. We need a ton of depth - LB, CB, WR, RB, OG, OT Depth is for the later rounds. They need high end talent on the Oline and at CB. They need studs not more average players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 CB, WR, G are going to be the top picks. Depth at RB and at the end of the draft I can see Punter and safety. Let Hyde and Poyer groom a young guy for two years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On 3/28/2022 at 4:16 PM, whorlnut said: You don’t draft for need. Are you kidding me? IF corner is BPA at 25, then fine. But I’m hearing a lot of you say it has to be a corner. That’s completely reckless. Not all the corners are the same. Guys like Gardner, Booth, McDuffie, and Stingley are the obvious first rounders. Gordon did not have good numbers at the combine and his stock has dropped. Elam has his issue and mccreary has absurdly short arms. Do you really think Beane is gonna draft a guy with sub 29” arms to play the boundary? No way. Heck, McDuffie has short arms too. Dane Jackson has better measurables. All four of the corners I mentioned as first rounders will probably be gone. Do you still want Beane to draft one “just because we need one”? Count me out on that. We can possibly get someone like Gordon or Woolen in round 2 and get a big upgrade at the position. It doesn’t “have to be” corner at 25. Drafting solely for need in the first yields gems like John McCargo, Aaron Maybin, and EJ Manuel. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, SoTier said: Drafting solely for need in the first yields gems like John McCargo, Aaron Maybin, and EJ Manuel. And the Bills are very talented at most every position. BPA all the way! Stud players fall every draft. The Bills can just sit back and take the highest rated player on their board, no matter a WR, S, RB, CB, OL any position they had a superior grade on player. That must scare the hell out of the rest of the league. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I could see the Bills swinging a trade for a CB. If Kenny Pickett is still on the board at 25 maybe New Orleans would trade up: Saints get #25 to draft Pickett. Bills get 2nd year CB from Stanford Paulson Adebo........who I think the Bills really liked in last years draft.........as well as pick #49 and #98(New Orleans first comp pick). Adebo was a big hit for New Orleans so maybe they would value him too high to use him in a trade up..........but this is the kind of thing that should be on the table for the Bills. It shouldn't just be about having to start a rookie or sign a tired vet if it's believed that White might not be ready to start the season. Love it. Then trade up for a WR they really like if need be. Winning lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I agree with those who think we go, in some order: WR, CB, OL in the first 3 rounds. The odds are decent that those positions are also the BPA at where we’re drafting when you look at mock draft boards. The only potential disruptions I could see to assuming those positions, if we go BPA, would be a DL or RB that drops… Devonte Wyatt or Jordan Davis in RD1 or a RB they like that drops to the late 2nd/3rd. Daxton Hill is interesting at Safety, but if a team takes him in RD1, it seems good odds that they draft him as a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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