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JaCrispy
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This would make sense, as I have heard that Putin has stated, before, that he prefers Biden to Trump because he is more “experienced and predictable ”…I guess the same description would apply to Hilla

All_Pro_Bills
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Logic isn't a strong suit of the left.  How could it be?  Most of what they believe is based denial of reality.  In this case not understanding the concept of conditional logic.  If, Then, Else.

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Disagree completely. It's a tough business with a very tough mission goings against entities that have no rules.

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On 7/18/2022 at 7:54 PM, BillStime said:

What's nice about the cult is that they will never miss an opportunity show their true allegiance.

 

 

A lot of Americans object to the US providing protection to additional countries like Sweden and Finland simply because we receive nothing in return for the arrangement.  Let's face it, they're joining NATO to benefit from protections only America can provide.  They're not joining NATO, for example, so the dynamic military forces of Italy or some other random European nation can defend them.  How about they pay something like 10% of their annual GDP to the US treasury for the cost of defending them from any attack?  That's in line with what the Roman Empire charged the provinces.  Same for the rest of NATO protectorates.  That seems fair they should pay something for the cost of our military defending them.

Otherwise we bear the costs and they get off free and clear to pursue other activities besides war and defense.  That doesn't seem fair to the US citizens and businesses that work to pay taxes to defend their country so their citizens are free to do things like take the month of August off for vacation while we work through the Summer to foot the bill.

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Just now, All_Pro_Bills said:

A lot of Americans object to the US is providing protection to additional countries like Sweden and Finland simply because we receive nothing in return for the arrangement.  Let's face it, they're joining NATO to benefit from protections only America can provide.  They're not joining NATO, for example, so the dynamic military forces of Italy or some other random European nation can defend them.  How about they pay something like 10% of their annual GDP to the US treasury for the cost of defending them from any attack?  That's in line with what the Roman Empire charged the provinces.  Same for the rest of NATO protectorates.  That seems fair they should pay something for the cost of our military defending them.

Otherwise we bear the costs and they get off free and clear to pursue other activities besides war and defense.  That doesn't seem fair to the US citizens and businesses that work to pay taxes to defend their country so their citizens are free to do things like take the month of August off for vacation while we work through the Summer to foot the bill.


If Russia didn’t invade Ukraine - do you think Sweden and Finland would be joining NATO?

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On 6/30/2022 at 8:56 AM, BillStime said:

Yes Marj - we should pull out of NATO and please your boss Vlad - gtfoh 

 

 

Compromised. The pro-Putin wing of the GOP is a serious threat to the republic 

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

A lot of Americans object to the US providing protection to additional countries like Sweden and Finland simply because we receive nothing in return for the arrangement.  Let's face it, they're joining NATO to benefit from protections only America can provide.  They're not joining NATO, for example, so the dynamic military forces of Italy or some other random European nation can defend them.  How about they pay something like 10% of their annual GDP to the US treasury for the cost of defending them from any attack?  That's in line with what the Roman Empire charged the provinces.  Same for the rest of NATO protectorates.  That seems fair they should pay something for the cost of our military defending them.

Otherwise we bear the costs and they get off free and clear to pursue other activities besides war and defense.  That doesn't seem fair to the US citizens and businesses that work to pay taxes to defend their country so their citizens are free to do things like take the month of August off for vacation while we work through the Summer to foot the bill.

United we are stronger. We gained by having those new countries in our military orbit 

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Compromised. The pro-Putin wing of the GOP is a serious threat to the republic 

Tibs….there are some odd things to set your hair on fire about but this is definitely not one of them. This Putin obsession doesn’t play with the American people.

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Compromised. The pro-Putin wing of the GOP is a serious threat to the republic 

United we are stronger. We gained by having those new countries in our military orbit 

Do you apply this philosophy when you go to a Bills game with your buddies?  Does the person making the most coin buy tickets and food and drinks and pay for parking for everybody?  If yes, where can I sign up for that?  Call me Finland and throw in a couple Allen jerseys for me too!  

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Do you apply this philosophy when you go to a Bills game with your buddies?  Does the person making the most coin buy tickets and food and drinks and pay for parking for everybody?  If yes, where can I sign up for that?  Call me Finland and throw in a couple Allen jerseys for me too!  

Nope, we as a nation are stronger working closely with other free nations. NATO is great 

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When you're quoting dead bloodthirsty war mongers like McCain, that are responsible for initiating wars which resulted in the deaths of 100's of thousand and displaced millions of innocent civilians while causing untold suffering and miserly plus the unnecessary deaths and injuries to large numbers of America's armed forces to enable the profits of the defense industry for validation your argument is pretty weak. 

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When you're quoting dead bloodthirsty war mongers like McCain, that are responsible for initiating wars which resulted in the deaths of 100's of thousand and displaced millions of innocent civilians while causing untold suffering and miserly plus the unnecessary deaths and injuries to large numbers of America's armed forces to enable the profits of the defense industry for validation your argument is pretty weak. 


So I’ll put you down as a no - you don’t have any sources to back up your claim Trump did NOT have classified nuclear documents at his pedo resort - got it. 
 

Now go distract and spew your BS at your safe place.

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