DieHardBillsFan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 After the initial shock of Von Miller going to Buffalo, I have had time to reflect. Why didn't we try harder for Mack? I was sad to see Mack go to LA for only a 2nd and 6th, and thought we should have taken a shot at that. But I turned the page because we didn't have the money. But turns out we did have the money. Now Mack's cap hit for the Chargers in 2022 will be about the same as Millers which is around 17.5M. With that in mind I am curious about the thinking here. If our team was willing to pay that money for a big time play maker at DE why didn't we go for Mack? According to draftsharks.com (which is the first source I found to check injuries and possibility to have injury in 2022, may not be the best) Mack has a lesser chance of missing games in 2022 than Miller by about half. I would also say that most agree, Mack would be the better player of the 2. So did we just miss the opportunity? I want to try and make sense of this and not end on a perception of missed opportunity for a guy that this fanbase is very high on and has for years hoped we would gain. Lets say Beane was involved to some degree. Beane must put very high value on his draft picks. Potentially, Beane was already willing to part with that kind of money but figured he could add Jones or Miller for the same price and not have to part with his 2nd and 6th round pick. So the takeaway would be that Beane believes that Mack for 17M+ a 2nd and a 6th is not worth as much as Von Miller at a similar price. I think I might be able to get behind that but curious of others thoughts. Do you agree that Miller is worth more than Mack + the 2 picks? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Miller is a leader and knows how to win a Super Bowl. 10 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 A second round pick is extremely valuable. 11 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Nester said: Miller is a leader and knows how to win a Super Bowl. I agree. I think this was the deciding factor for Beane. Miller is a difference maker. He makes better players of those around him. I also think that because of the depth in this year's draft, as well as when you sign players like Miller and Josh and likely Diggs to huge contracts, you need to balance your roster with solid draft picks that won't cost a lot for 4 to 5 years. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I think this deserves a poll. Who is to blame the MOST. ***** McBeane of course. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I guess Beane didn't want to give up a 2nd Round Pick in a year where the strength of the Draft is Rounds 2-4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, nedboy7 said: I think this deserves a poll. Who is to blame the MOST. ***** McBeane of course. I would have added a poll, but not sure how. Not to blame but which you would say is higher value: Von Miller + 2nd and 6th round pick Khalil Mack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 rings + 1 SB MVP > local feel-good story 5 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba2018 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Hasn't Miller not missed a game in his career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: A second round pick is extremely valuable. Depends. For a proven player especially it might not be. Edited March 17, 2022 by Bangarang 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) I'm a perpetual Mack fan. Whaley's biggest mistake ever as a GM, I was disappointed to see Beane let him go to the Chargers. I thought it would have been the perfect time to fix the mistake. But Von Miller is arguably equal to Mack, so we'll see what happens. Edited March 17, 2022 by Freddie's Dead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBillsFan Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, Rico said: 2 rings + 1 SB MVP > local feel-good story He is much more than a local feel good story. Top 5 -10 best DE in NFL is more like it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Love Mack, but rather have Miller and the picks. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, recovery96 said: Hasn't Miller not missed a game in his career? He almost missed the whole season two years ago. He had ankle surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I see it this way. Mack hasn’t been a big factor in a couple years. Mack has not made anywhere near the impact plays Miller has. Same thing edmunds gets some hate for. We want impact game changing plays. And I’m not even a Von Miller fan but it’s easy to browse his resume and find huge impact plays almost every year 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 We get the guy with more recent production and get to keep the high draft picks and a lower cap hit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: A second round pick is extremely valuable. Lots of second-rounders don't become good starters. Then again, those who do are tremendously valuable for a few years because they're playing on a rookie contract. In order to pay Josh big money (and Von and others), we need contributions from our own draft picks - guys on affordable rookie contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Von Miller > (Khalil Mack + 2nd + 6th) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 If they wanted a pure pass rusher its possible Jones, or Mack were better options. However, what Miller brings in terms of pass rush, setting the edge, and knowing how to win, they got the best guy. Just have to hope he stays healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I'm happy how it turned out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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