NewEra Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, Magnum Force said: Yes but neither is Von Miller… The window is open for a Superbowl this year… let’s take it Lol. You’re comparing acquiring an all time pass rusher that has won two Super Bowls, including this last years….to a rb. Von will have a massive impact on winning now and the future by imparting his wisdom in our young DL draft picks. A Rb will run through open holes or get stuffed most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Just now, NewEra said: Lol. You’re comparing acquiring an all time pass rusher that has won two Super Bowls, including this last years….to a rb. Von will have a massive impact on winning now and the future by imparting his wisdom in our young DL draft picks. A Rb will run through open holes or get stuffed most of the time. Von Miller is how old in 3 days? How much and how long is his contract? You said sustained dominance… I am talking about for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Magnum Force said: Von Miller is how old in 3 days? How much and how long is his contract? You said sustained dominance… I am talking about for this year. I said winning and sustained dominance. Winning now….and imparting his wisdom on Ed, Rousseau, Basham, AJ and the rest of our D. He will make everyone a better player. That will help with sustained dominance. Not everything is surface level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 10 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Agreed. It’s a good strategic counter balance. Plus Breece would make Allen even more deadly. Teams have to totally game plan around both which makes it nearly impossible. Just thinking about it gets me excited. That speed and size underneath in the pass game forces defenses to move up and cause a linebacker to worry about Breece coming out of the backfield and it opens a lot of space for josh to scramble. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said: That speed and size underneath in the pass game forces defenses to move up and cause a linebacker to worry about Breece coming out of the backfield and it opens a lot of space for josh to scramble. This I agree with whole heartedly. He does cause match-up problems, no matter how you look at it. If he goes to the flat, you aren’t leaving a CB on him, going to take a LB to handle someone that big. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Some B. Hall you tube porn for you: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 37 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Some B. Hall you tube porn for you: I couldn’t make it through. The guy talks too much and he doesn’t have a great grasp on needs. I mean DT is not a need or is TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I have bet on a ton of Iowa State games in the last 5 years, likely because Matt Campbell seems to do so well in the 2nd half of the season and his teams seem to always fly under the radar. I watched a lot of David Montgomery and then his predecessor, Breece Hall. While I liked both players, I feel Montgomery played faster than his 40 and Hall slower with Montgomery being a much more physical back. Hall is still a good player, but can I say he is better within 10 yards than Motor? Further, do I think his 4.39 really matters at the next level? No on both accounts. I just don't see how he warrants a selection by us early. We are better off with our current puff puff give than adding another guy to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 With what we have done in Free Agency and our cap limitations, we have a huge hole at CB right now. Tre isn’t predicted to be back until Oct/Nov. Not addressing CB within the first two rounds would be a huge concern. We need a starter to instantly perform as a rookie. To put all of our chips on Dane Jackson would be a mistake IMO. Running Back in the first round would be bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Magnum Force said: I just like Hall’s size, speed and pass catching ability out of the backfield… it makes our offense so much more versatile, unpredictable and explosive in all areas Funny most scouting reports I've read question his route running ability, hands and pass pro. The folks at Iowa State took him off the field on many 3rd downs because of this. https://www.draftdive.com/breece-hall-scouting-report/ https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021450-breece-hall-nfl-draft-2022-scouting-report-for-iowa-state-rb Both of these have him as a 2nd rd talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 49 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Funny most scouting reports I've read question his route running ability, hands and pass pro. The folks at Iowa State took him off the field on many 3rd downs because of this. https://www.draftdive.com/breece-hall-scouting-report/ https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021450-breece-hall-nfl-draft-2022-scouting-report-for-iowa-state-rb Both of these have him as a 2nd rd talent. I am not arguing that..but there is a high likelihood he won’t be there at pick 57. Derrick Henry and Jonathan Taylor were both rated as 2nd Round talents. Sometimes you have to go with your gut instincts. Which CB do you want? There are 4 … potentially 5 that come into play at pick 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Magnum Force said: Which CB do you want? There are 4 … potentially 5 that come into play at pick 25. Booth for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I want Breece Hall but… My wish list at pick 25 in order. 1) Breece Hall RB 2) Trent McDuffie CB 3) Treylon Burks WR 4) Trevor Penning OL 5) Andrew Booth CB 6) Jameson Williams WR 7) Kyler Gordon CB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) On 3/23/2022 at 1:47 PM, NewEra said: Lol. You’re comparing acquiring an all time pass rusher that has won two Super Bowls, including this last years….to a rb. Von will have a massive impact on winning now and the future by imparting his wisdom in our young DL draft picks. A Rb will run through open holes or get stuffed most of the time. Yep, Breece Hall in the Bills’ backfield last year just would have gotten hit 1.5 yards in the backfield instead of 2 yards deep. Edited March 24, 2022 by OldTimer1960 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Magnum Force said: I want Breece Hall but… My wish list at pick 25 in order. 1) Breece Hall RB 2) Trent McDuffie CB 3) Treylon Burks WR 4) Trevor Penning OL 5) Andrew Booth CB 6) Jameson Williams WR 7) Kyler Gordon CB I like all those except for Burks 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnum Force Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, JaCrispy said: I like all those except for Burks 👍 Burks has that DK Metcalf aura to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 On 3/16/2022 at 11:55 PM, Big Turk said: Just say no to RB man...it's not a value position. WR or CB NFL teams still run about 44% of the time (the Bills around 41%). Don't you want those plays to be successful? A good/great RB will help move the chains and make it harder for defenses to scheme solely for Josh and his wideouts. Though I agree it's not our biggest need. I'd go CB or OL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: NFL teams still run about 44% of the time (the Bills around 41%). Don't you want those plays to be successful? A good/great RB will help move the chains and make it harder for defenses to scheme solely for Josh and his wideouts. Though I agree it's not our biggest need. I'd go CB or OL. Well, yes maybe. I can argue that a good OL is a better way to have a good run game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 22 hours ago, freddyjj said: Funny most scouting reports I've read question his route running ability, hands and pass pro. The folks at Iowa State took him off the field on many 3rd downs because of this. https://www.draftdive.com/breece-hall-scouting-report/ https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10021450-breece-hall-nfl-draft-2022-scouting-report-for-iowa-state-rb Both of these have him as a 2nd rd talent. Thanks for the links. Considering we're a pass-first team, this from BR is concerning: "...His route tree is limited to checkdowns and screens, which does limit some of his versatility... Hall will need to keep developing his pass protection to stay on the field on passing downs... His effort and technique can be inconsistent, and he can be prone to cutting blitzers, which is disappointing given his size..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) There seems to be 3 lines of thinking amongst fans: 1.) Take Breece Hall in Round 1 2.) Take a RB in the middle rounds 3.) Don't take a RB at all, maybe Round 6 or 7 I'm FIRMLY in Camp 2. I think people in Camps 1 and 3 are nuts. Edited March 24, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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