Doc Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 22 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: More like he feels that coming off an injury plagued 2021 season, he is confident enough in himself to command a better contract than if he signed before this season. He's betting on himself to have a great season. He's not leaving Baltimore if he plays like he thinks he will. Sure now that's the case, but he wasn't injured until week 14 last season. At the latest he should have gone to the Ravens for a new contract right after Josh got his and gotten one done well before he got injured. I just don't believe that the Ravens didn't tell him what they're willing to give him after Josh got paid, and it was far less that what he thought he deserved, which is what led to the radio silence from him (I think the same thing happened with Mayfield). But yes, now that he's injured, he's going to have to prove he can stay healthy and can play well. Before getting injured last year he had 18 total TDs to 13 INTs. And even then, if he does both, they can franchise him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokebball Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Albany,n.y. said: More like he feels that coming off an injury plagued 2021 season, he is confident enough in himself to command a better contract than if he signed before this season. He's betting on himself to have a great season. He's not leaving Baltimore if he plays like he thinks he will. Guaranteed money in a new contract is what is probably most at risk, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 16 hours ago, ganesh said: I believe that is incorrect. Lamar has chosen not to negotiate yet with the Ravens. It is not stalled by any means when it has not even started. This can’t be the case. Besides reports of negotiations between him and the team, why would Lamar have held himself out of voluntary OTAs if he wasn’t even negotiating yet? That makes no sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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That's No Moon Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That would be bold given that we don't know what will happen with the Watson situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: That would be bold given that we don't know what will happen with the Watson situation Mayfield would probably never suit up for the Browns ever again, even if he isn’t traded. The Browns royally (tr)ucked Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: That would be bold given that we don't know what will happen with the Watson situation Not really. Mayfield has made it clear he won't play for them again so why keep that hanging around their heads? And again if they keep him the best they can hope for is a late-3rd round comp pick in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, BarleyNY said: This can’t be the case. Besides reports of negotiations between him and the team, why would Lamar have held himself out of voluntary OTAs if he wasn’t even negotiating yet? That makes no sense at all. Is this sarcastic? Many players who have no contract issues pending skip VOLUNTARY OTAs. There can be a variety of reasons for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, The Dean said: Is this sarcastic? Many players who have no contract issues pending skip VOLUNTARY OTAs. There can be a variety of reasons for this. You can’t be serious. Please list all of the starting QBs without contract issues that did this. From what I can find that list for this off-season is Brady and Rodgers, who obviously do not need the practice. Also QBs Kyler Murray (contract issues) and Baker Mayfield (excused, team trying to trade). https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/which-nfl-players-are-sitting-out-otas-lamar-jackson-kyler-murray-among-stars-not-at-offseason-activities/amp/ Edited June 26, 2022 by BarleyNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Doc said: Not really. Mayfield has made it clear he won't play for them again so why keep that hanging around their heads? And again if they keep him the best they can hope for is a late-3rd round comp pick in 2024. Browns replaced the guy who said he would never play for them again with the guy who said he would never play for his last team.....then molested dozens of women. Haslam easily the worst owner in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Browns replaced the guy who said he would never play for them again with the guy who said he would never play for his last team.....then molested dozens of women. Haslam easily the worst owner in the league After that contract, I'm sure even the other owners would agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc said: After that contract, I'm sure even the other owners would agree. That's just the icing on a fetid cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 3 hours ago, That's No Moon said: That would be bold given that we don't know what will happen with the Watson situation The divorce happened when they signed Watson. The final paper work just got screwed up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: The divorce happened when they signed Watson. The final paper work just got screwed up. Agreed but sometimes ppl have to live together for awhile because of circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Agreed but sometimes ppl have to live together for awhile because of circumstances. Wait. Baker got the Browns pregnant? Was that in the parking lot of The Cheesecake Factory? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 5 hours ago, That's No Moon said: That would be bold given that we don't know what will happen with the Watson situation Watson could be permanently banished today and mayfield would still be traded 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Anytime I feel like my life is a mess, I just look at the Browns. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 6/26/2022 at 3:56 AM, Albany,n.y. said: More like he feels that coming off an injury plagued 2021 season, he is confident enough in himself to command a better contract than if he signed before this season. He's betting on himself to have a great season. He's not leaving Baltimore if he plays like he thinks he will. With the Watson deal in the bag, Lamar is looking at losing a guaranteed contract of $250M if he chooses not sign an extension with the Ravens right now. It is amazing how we got lucky with the Josh Allen contract. On the flip side we have had to pay the premium for Miller and for extending Diggs. We will also be paying higher for Poyer, Knox and possibly Edwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 8 hours ago, BarleyNY said: You can’t be serious. Please list all of the starting QBs without contract issues that did this. From what I can find that list for this off-season is Brady and Rodgers, who obviously do not need the practice. Also QBs Kyler Murray (contract issues) and Baker Mayfield (excused, team trying to trade). https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/which-nfl-players-are-sitting-out-otas-lamar-jackson-kyler-murray-among-stars-not-at-offseason-activities/amp/ Well, I wasn't restricting myself to QBs, but you YOU JUST NAMED TWO QBS who didn't attend OTAs. Do you really think Jackson needs the "practice" that occurs in OTAs? He is the unquestionable starter for the Ravens as has been in that system for three years. He won an MVP in that offense. I'm sure he doesn't need the limited practice they manage to get in OTAs. It's most valuable for rookies and new players to the system. Now, to be sure, I'd like every player to be there, even if they don't need the practice. But we know that isn't always the case. Also keep in mind, Jackson is his own agent. That is particularly unusual, especially for a starting QB. He marches to the beat of a different drummer than the "typical" NFL player. Why assign the logic and motivations of the typical player? Doesn't make sense to me. Nobody in the organization, including Jackson, seems to have any serious concerns with the situation. Quote “He is a unique cat, and what are you going to do with a guy who wants to be unique?” Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti said at the NFL league meetings in March. "You don't browbeat him into being a conformist. https://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/56056/inside-the-different-paths-lamar-jacksons-contract-can-take-with-the-ravens So if I was a Raven's fan I wouldn't be all that stressed out, at the moment. Everyone is saying the right things and nobody involved (as far as I can see) is fretting over the contract negotiation at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Doc Brown said: The divorce happened when they signed Watson. The final paper work just got screwed up. And by “final paperwork”, I assume you mean the whole thing from start to finish. Lordy! What a mess! But yeah, it was over. I really feel for Brown’s fans. I honestly think they provide their fans with far more anguish than the drought. “We suck” is one thing. “We should be good but keep finding ways for our criminal owner to screw it up”…..is something else. . Edited June 27, 2022 by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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