billsbackto81 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Why is it everytime FA is about to start I feel like Beane is at Wal-Mart standing over the DVD clearance bin rummaging through jewel cases trying to find a bargain. Our team is really close and windows don't stay open very long. Take a chance like the Rams and acquire difference makers to get us over the top. 10-15 years from now nobody's gonna remember how well you managed the cap. What we will remember and cherish is that year we finally got that Lombardi in the trophy case. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 hours ago, DapperCam said: Hopefully he can be in on 1st/2nd down and set the edge. I feel like we really lacked that this past year. Yup. He’s definitely better than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
par73 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 He might be a small upgrade to all the DE mediocrity currently on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: If Lawson signs, it will point to a shake up in the DE room. I have theorized that Hughes, Obada and Epenesa won't be on the team next season Obada has a chance to be back. Epenesa isn’t going anywhere going into his third season. Played well at times last year and I feel he will only improve. Shaq would be good at the right price. Believe he knows that he’s not breaking the bank whatever team he lands on. Wants back on the Bills because he knows they will be able to put him in a good position to hopefully get back to form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Based off one bad year with the Jets were he played LB? based on my hope that the Bills will have better options than this in FA, but with the cap situation Shaq may be all they can afford 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Shaq would be a solid pick as he and Rousseau are both solid at setting the edge and playing against RPO’s. It would be nice to have a solid run stopping unit on early downs. The go get after the QB. This coming year we play the AFC & NFC North. A bunch of run first teams and some great RB’s. Plus we play Tennessee. And all the division teams are run first teams. We have to be much more stout against the run than the last couple of years. If we want to reach our goals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgarsh Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 8 hours ago, 2003Contenders said: If nothing else, he was a very disciplined DE who set the edge well -- and could be a nice mentor in those regards to our young DEs who struggled in that capacity last year. Would still like to acquire a genuine pass rusher though. Groot did a good job setting the edge. Others not so much 3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I mean, if he wants to come for peanuts and be our replacement to Efe Obada - okay. But we need something strong opposite Rousseau. Signing Lawson, Re-signing Hughes or Addison (at this stage in their careers), Epenesa, or Basham is not the answer. But I'm okay with Lawson being part of the 3 man rotation with Epenesa and Basham outside of the Starting 2 though. Obada can play all 4 spots, perhaps he can play where Phillips was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 As long as its as a depth DE and a low price tag, let's do it. He's also got some position flexibility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 In my opinion, Shaq Lawson was a good solid player here. He was not a star and they let him leave as Phins overpaid for him. Good run defender with decent pass rush skills. Can be be a plus as part of DE rotation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, billsbackto81 said: Why is it everytime FA is about to start I feel like Beane is at Wal-Mart standing over the DVD clearance bin rummaging through jewel cases trying to find a bargain. Our team is really close and windows don't stay open very long. Take a chance like the Rams and acquire difference makers to get us over the top. 10-15 years from now nobody's gonna remember how well you managed the cap. What we will remember and cherish is that year we finally got that Lombardi in the trophy case. Well, because there is a hard cap in the NFL and teams paying $40+M per year for their QB have to be frugal in other areas. This talk-show/internet idea of “all-in in the window” is bunk. There IS value in being a consistently competitive team. I think that DOES maximize your opportunity to win 1 SB. The idea of pushing all chips in for one season sounds enticing, but one key injury or bad break can derail that championship chase and then next season you fall off paying the price for being “all in”. i would MUCH rather they field a consistently good team for several years under Allen than blow that signing expensive FAs for one shot and then blow up the team due to cap hits following years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, jlgarsh said: Obada can play all 4 spots, perhaps he can play where Phillips was? Dude, no. Obada was a nice little story that people got excited about. But the hype was a lot of sizzle but no steak, outside of the one game against the Panthers. He slid inside a number of times in a reserve role and didn't provide a thing. Being our starting DT? C'mon. He's a Free Agent and we're not using cap space on a guy who's role can easily be replaced by a late round draft pick. Edited March 10, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I have always been a big fan of shaq and I think he had room to grow before. I was one of the few who wanted his 5th year picked up. I wouldn’t of signed him 3/30 million though lol. He’d obviously be coming back on the cheap after bouncing around and probably not much interest in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Why is it everytime FA is about to start I feel like Beane is at Wal-Mart standing over the DVD clearance bin rummaging through jewel cases trying to find a bargain. Our team is really close and windows don't stay open very long. Take a chance like the Rams and acquire difference makers to get us over the top. 10-15 years from now nobody's gonna remember how well you managed the cap. What we will remember and cherish is that year we finally got that Lombardi in the trophy case. Cuz we are over the cap ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Why is it everytime FA is about to start I feel like Beane is at Wal-Mart standing over the DVD clearance bin rummaging through jewel cases trying to find a bargain. Our team is really close and windows don't stay open very long. Take a chance like the Rams and acquire difference makers to get us over the top. 10-15 years from now nobody's gonna remember how well you managed the cap. What we will remember and cherish is that year we finally got that Lombardi in the trophy case. FA doesn’t start till Wednesday officially. Negotiations start Monday. Edited March 10, 2022 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Our team is really close and windows don't stay open very long. As long as Josh Allen stays healthy and they keep good offensive talent around him, the window will be open for a long time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, billsbackto81 said: Why is it everytime FA is about to start I feel like Beane is at Wal-Mart standing over the DVD clearance bin rummaging through jewel cases trying to find a bargain. Our team is really close and windows don't stay open very long. Take a chance like the Rams and acquire difference makers to get us over the top. 10-15 years from now nobody's gonna remember how well you managed the cap. What we will remember and cherish is that year we finally got that Lombardi in the trophy case. Ralph is cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, jlgarsh said: Obada can play all 4 spots, perhaps he can play where Phillips was No to a 270 lb 1 Technique DT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Can set the edge in the run game, we have shown a weakness in that area against higher end run teams since his departure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, KzooMike said: Can set the edge in the run game, we have shown a weakness in that area against higher end run teams since his departure. Really true. Indy rings a bell and if they get Jimmy G or Mitch , they will be a playoff team we may need to go thru. I like Shaq, he was a guy who played with enthusiasm and I feel with the older vets like hughes et Al , we missed some of that last year and it showed as that D played flat like against lower level teams as Jacksonville. Sometimes you live and learn the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere and I bet Shaq would bring some gratitude , experience , and wanting to be back is about the growth process Mcd is always preaching about. We could, and more importantly , HAVE done worse with some of the d line Beane has gone with ( Murphy for example) in FA and I wouldn’t mind seeing Lawson back being good against the run and he made some key sacks / PBU’s that are things we lack consistency with. I would take him over Epenesa any day because after disappearing again last year , I really have my doubts he becomes the impact guy they thought he would become when he dropped to us. He dropped for a reason , maybe other teams scouts were right about the issues they saw resulting in passing on him. Time will tell but having a vet now like Shaq is what Mcd has chosen previously over guys we would be in a position to get in this draft as there doesn’t seem to be great talent on the edge likely outside of the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 9 hours ago, NewEra said: My bad. I usually read what people write in visible ink as opposed to the invisible kind. Please…..show me where you said IF. maybe that what you meant to write. A 2 year prove it deal doesn’t benefit the player btw. Say the player does prove it….he’s stuck playing another season at a discounted rate. If the player doesn’t prove it, he’s cut. Players sign 1 year prove it deals unless they have gtd money….and Shaq shouldn’t have anything gtd. He’d be playing for a roster spot. He’s jag depth. the “if” is implied by the sentence structure. no need for the snark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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