Best Williams Available Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) https://ckedboard.medium.com/how-a-season-long-rift-between-patrick-mahomes-and-eric-bieniemy-ruined-the-afc-championship-35481f116513 This makes me happy (most of us) aren’t crazy and too high on our ourselves or our imaginary sway with OBD. i think this is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt by some super fans to blame Bieniemy to get him fired. The first third to half provides “context and insight” and tries to prove insider info, but comes off as reaching, unbelievable, and tin foil hat crazy to me. Sure some of these things may have happened, but it affected Pat so much he was unable to throw a football for two halves? Anyway, relish in another teams misery. Edited February 17, 2022 by Best Williams Available 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 The uniformity of the narrative presented (ZERO concession or complexity), and the absolute lack of concrete attribution for ALL evidence submitted, adds up to a polemic hit-piece that reads more like a conspiracy theory than the whistle-blowing reportage it wants us to see. Maybe the unnamed authors are on to something, but this published compilation of hearsay, conjecture, and innuendo isn't a convincing presentation. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Hey, if there is really infighting going on like they claim, that sounds great to me. Keep it going. 4 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) This strikes me a bit as fans doing what fans do - blame the coordinator. That is easier than blaming the Quarterback or the Head Coach 'cos your team is generally more locked into those guys. Coordinators are often the scapegoats. The article might be true but there isn't a single one of its claims that is corroborated by a second source. The main person to blame for the 2nd half of the AFCCG? It was Patrick Mahomes. Edited February 17, 2022 by GunnerBill 4 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 It's hard to believe anyone who says they have inside sources. Sounds like some fans can't fathom that the Bengals outplayed and out coached the Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 There's no way in hell Reid would allow a clause in Bienemy's one year contract that Bienemy calls all the plays. This is a hit piece. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 First, If they were so worried about Bieniemy, then why let Kafka go to the Giants? Seems ridiculous Reid would allow such behavior to cripple the team in the AFCC. And then bring him back? No way. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, davefan66 said: First, If they were so worried about Bieniemy, then why let Kafka go to the Giants? Seems ridiculous Reid would allow such behavior to cripple the team in the AFCC. And then bring him back? No way. They couldn't prevent him from going to the Giants because it's a promotion but they certainly could've offered him the same role as offensive coordinator for the Chiefs. I'm interested to see if players have anything to say about this article over the next couple of days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: They couldn't prevent him from going to the Giants because it's a promotion but they certainly could've offered him the same role as offensive coordinator for the Chiefs. I'm interested to see if players have anything to say about this article over the next couple of days. That’s my point. If Kafka was so respected and EB isn’t, why keep up the charade? Let EB go and promote Kafka. It will be interesting if the players say nothing and don’t have EB’s back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, davefan66 said: That’s my point. If Kafka was so respected and EB isn’t, why keep up the charade? Let EB go and promote Kafka. It will be interesting if the players say nothing and don’t have EB’s back. Meh. They should say nothing. It is a completely unverified blog post with no corroboration. They should just ignore it. If it was an SI piece or something like that then would be interesting to see the reaction. But this is no more than internet tittle tattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: This strikes me a bit as fans doing what fans do - blame to coordinator. That is easier than blaming the Quarterback or the Head Coach 'cos your team is generally more locked into those guys. Coordinators are often the scapegoats. The article might be true but there isn't a single one of its claims that is corroborated by a second source. The main person to blame for the 2nd half of the AFCCG? It was Patrick Mahomes. Yep. Total Rat meltdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, stuvian said: It's hard to believe anyone who says they have inside sources. Sounds like some fans can't fathom that the Bengals outplayed and out coached the Chiefs. They could have attended "high level meetings" BTW lets hope its real and the Chefs implode 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 The ending gives it away. "Reid could turn to an old friend in Matt Nagy, who will actually check Andy and collaborate with the offensive coaching staff and listen to his players." The writer of this piece was Matt Nagy. Guy's trying to find a job. Se riously though this whole thing reads like fan fiction. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 There may be a sliver of truth to that. I saw Mahones arguing with someone going up the tunnel at halftime. It was a coach that I now realize was Bieniemy. Also, he did squeeze his helmet a lot in the second half. And we all saw Hill and Hardman arguing on the sidelines during the 3rd quarter because Romo pointed it out. My takeaway was that the Chiefs are a team with a lot of big personalities who point fingers when things go south. If they did indeed fall apart, why couldn’t it have happened a week earlier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 On the other hand: Bieniemy has been the hot coordinator for the past 3 years. He has been the next guy who should be getting a head coaching job, right? But he has not. .... Why would Daboll be a better pick than him? Well, there might be some obvious reasons he's not been a serious candiate for a head coaching position. Interpersonal skills are important. Maybe, just maybe, that's why he's not a HC? .... If you go on merit, is there any other OC over the past few year ahead of him? Answer: No! So, why no HC opportunities??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Nothing more than a Hit piece. 50 minutes ago, CSBill said: On the other hand: Bieniemy has been the hot coordinator for the past 3 years. He has been the next guy who should be getting a head coaching job, right? But he has not. .... Why would Daboll be a better pick than him? Well, there might be some obvious reasons he's not been a serious candiate for a head coaching position. Interpersonal skills are important. Maybe, just maybe, that's why he's not a HC? .... If you go on merit, is there any other OC over the past few year ahead of him? Answer: No! So, why no HC opportunities??? 1. His criminal background is an issue 2. Unlike this Hit piece wants to claim this is Andy Reid’s offense and calling. 3. Getting out of the Shadow of Reid can be difficult on the offensive side. 4. Also right wrong or indifferent Daboll gets credit for Josh’s development. Bienemy doesn’t it was Reid with Mahomes Edited February 17, 2022 by MAJBobby 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 I cant believe Bienemy told Mahomes to throw 3 ints, what a jerk. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Read preamble of article. Immediately think this guy is involved. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 When they win it’s Andy Reid’s offense ..and the brilliance of Mahomes When they lose its Bieniemy to blame… Mahomes played terrible in the second half of that game… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Williams Available Posted February 17, 2022 Author Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, CSBill said: On the other hand: Bieniemy has been the hot coordinator for the past 3 years. He has been the next guy who should be getting a head coaching job, right? But he has not. .... Why would Daboll be a better pick than him? Well, there might be some obvious reasons he's not been a serious candiate for a head coaching position. Interpersonal skills are important. Maybe, just maybe, that's why he's not a HC? .... If you go on merit, is there any other OC over the past few year ahead of him? Answer: No! So, why no HC opportunities??? I’m in science, and if a postdoc interviewing for a faculty job doesn’t distinguish their ideas from their advisors (independence) they get passed over for someone who does. I suspect no one believes he designs or calls the plays fully. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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