Big Turk Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) Apparently many think the investigation will find Flores claims are true that he offered him $100K per loss. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/storm-clouds-gather-stephen-ross-194014685.html EDIT: Plan in place to cede control to Bruce Beal if he has too... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/stephen-ross-forced-bruce-beal-013429692.html Edited February 18, 2022 by Big Turk 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Flores better have proof. If not, he might want to start making some calls to FBS schools for any job openings. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Flores better have proof. If not, he might want to start making some calls to FBS schools for any job openings. His lawyers say he has corroborating witnesses. The question of course is whether they are willing to risk their careers speaking out? The NFL tends to close ranks on perceived trouble makers even if they are justified. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: Flores better have proof. If not, he might want to start making some calls to FBS schools for any job openings. I've read Flores has a credible witness to this offer from inside the organization, and that's what emboldened him to come forward with the accusation. Nobody would be speculating a billionaire could be forced to sell his business if it was known to be a "your word against his" type situation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 awww, poor billionaire. 2 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 They're might be something to this as it's a headline on the NFL's official website. He shouldn't be forced to sell the team if Flores has no proof. The reality is though that with gambling becoming another money maker for the NFL the thought of an owner paying a coach to tank (even if there's no evidence) may be enough for the NFL to force Ross to sell the team. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalosouth Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Panthers were sold for less problems than the WFT. I would not be surprised. Kind of shocked Snyder still has a team. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 He might have to sell, but he'll make a profit, no doubt about it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalosouth Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Utah John said: He might have to sell, but he'll make a profit, no doubt about it. I thought about that as soon as the Flores story broke. He sells the team and is punished with millions in profit. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Buffalosouth said: I thought about that as soon as the Flores story broke. He sells the team and is punished with millions in profit. Billions in profit. He bought them for just over 1 billion. They could sell around $4 billion. Edited February 15, 2022 by Buffalo_Stampede 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Stonada Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Ross is a sleaze bag. (Know someone who was hired by him on a real estate project, totally unrelated to football.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: His lawyers say he has corroborating witnesses. The question of course is whether they are willing to risk their careers speaking out? The NFL tends to close ranks on perceived trouble makers even if they are justified. That's where the subpoenas come in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Unfortunate for the Bills, if he is forced to sell. Miami might actually end up up with a competent owner(s). 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: His lawyers say he has corroborating witnesses. The question of course is whether they are willing to risk their careers speaking out? The NFL tends to close ranks on perceived trouble makers even if they are justified. Flores’s lawyers can subpoena them, in which case they will have to testify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I’m no lawyer but isn’t it possible Ross could just say he was joking? He wasn’t serious about the money, since no money was actually exchanged. Yes, I realize it seems a bit flimsy of a defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: Apparently many think the investigation will find Flores claims are true that he offered him $100K per loss. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/storm-clouds-gather-stephen-ross-194014685.html I like this, for the overall NFL; however, as a diehard Buffalo Bills fan, I want unsteady ships in the AFC East Bay. Let Allen's cannon sink them all! That's my unabashedly Bills-centric take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 If the allegations are true then Ross should be removed as owner. For entirely different reasons so should Snyder. I am surprised he is still owner of the Skins, WFT, Commando's or whatever they are calling themselves today. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rew Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, mannc said: Flores’s lawyers can subpoena them, in which case they will have to testify. So the NFL can subpoena individuals to testify in their investigations? Come on, it's the NFL not some underground society secretly taking over the world. In order for such a subpoena to happen, Flores' case will have to go to trial (it won't) and his lawyers would have to make a case on the relevancy of such a witness. The situation with Flores and Miami does not seem to have anything supporting a racial bias claim, unless there were racial undertones to the overall relationship that the witness could testify to. The actual offer to pay him per loss is more of a character framing on Ross and does little to support his suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: His lawyers say he has corroborating witnesses. The question of course is whether they are willing to risk their careers speaking out? The NFL tends to close ranks on perceived trouble makers even if they are justified. Personally, I feel like Flores is committing career suicide by pursuing this lawsuit. I have little doubt that he has some type of evidence to back up his claims. Going up against the giant that is the NFL, even WITH evidence he's fighting an uphill, severely lopsided battle IMO. And why? He must really be finished coaching in the NFL, because I find it very difficult to believe another team will give him an opportunity after this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Something Fishy about this thread. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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