BuffaloRebound Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, papazoid said: i dont think so...(not sure)...only if a team "loses" a candidate The policy allows a team that loses a minority assistant coach or executive — to become a head coach or GM of another team — to receive a third-round compensatory pick for two years. You’re probably right since comp picks by definition compensate you for losing something. But Lovie was still given the opportunity to be a coordinator by the Texans. By the spirit of the rule, I’d argue Texans still deserve the 2 picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: Florio floated out an interesting theory. He believes that Easterby always wanted to hire his friend Josh McCown. He couldn’t hire him last year so they hired Culley to set him up to fail. Thanks the the Flores lawsuit which named the Culley incident, they couldn’t hire McCown this year either. So Lovie, who was never a finalist, suddenly because a candidate. He thinks Lovie is set up to fail again like Culley to finally hire McCown https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/07/jack-easterby-continues-to-stay-a-step-ahead-of-everyone/ certainly plausible. Highly doubt the Texans want any more flak, which they certainly would’ve caught had they hired McCown. Lovie always seemed like a great guy and a good coach, but this is just uninspiring if I’m a Texans fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Guess the Josh McCown interview didn't go as well as expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: That don't confront me as long as New England don't get any...🤨 * 😁 they a'howling about the front drafts they be lucky to get any back drafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 as team chaplain, Easterby would have been in a position to hear confessions and in Houston there was much to be confessed. The Lord works in mysterious ways and on the 11th day he granted leverage to Moses that could only be gained through a sex tape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Florio floated out an interesting theory. He believes that Easterby always wanted to hire his friend Josh McCown. He couldn’t hire him last year so they hired Culley to set him up to fail. Thanks the the Flores lawsuit which named the Culley incident, they couldn’t hire McCown this year either. So Lovie, who was never a finalist, suddenly because a candidate. He thinks Lovie is set up to fail again like Culley to finally hire McCown https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/07/jack-easterby-continues-to-stay-a-step-ahead-of-everyone/ I think that's more what people expect from this move than just one man's theory. You don't hire Lovie Smith if you are thinking "turnaround" right now. He's washed. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 59 minutes ago, Gambit said: I’d rather have Flores, at least before last week anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Lovie had cutler in chicago and Mccown & winston in tampa you cant be a great coach without a great QB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Florio floated out an interesting theory. He believes that Easterby always wanted to hire his friend Josh McCown. He couldn’t hire him last year so they hired Culley to set him up to fail. Thanks the the Flores lawsuit which named the Culley incident, they couldn’t hire McCown this year either. So Lovie, who was never a finalist, suddenly because a candidate. He thinks Lovie is set up to fail again like Culley to finally hire McCown https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/07/jack-easterby-continues-to-stay-a-step-ahead-of-everyone/ It's an interesting thought. I think the Watson saga set Culley up to fail more than anything else, though. McCown reportedly said last year that he wasn't ready yet to coach. Then this year tells the Texans he's "all in" and ready. Issue here for me is let's see how all in he is. I think Lovie was hired because he will work with the Texans FO. Right now the obviously play for them is to offer McCown a spot on the staff for experience. Wouldn't shock me if Lovie had to agree to it before getting the spot. Now, if McCown joins the focus isn't setting Lovie up to fail as much as it becomes Lovie prepping McCown to be his successor. If McCown turns down a spot on staff (if offered) it would make me seriously question if he's will in to put in the work that is required of a HC in the NFL if he won't even grind to gain qualifications that may be required. Edited February 7, 2022 by BuffaloBillyG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Just a little over 2 years ago, the Texans had a 24-0 lead in KC in the second quarter of a divisional round game. It's really couldn't have gone much worse for them since that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Flores is a better candidate than Lovie, actually there are several better candidates out there. At a minimum, Lovie brings experience and a calming presence to a franchise in turmoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Success said: I'd be kind of bummed if I was a Texans fan. Smith seems like a nice guy, but he hasn't fared well as HC. Honestly, Flores is a much better candidate. It's weird to me that no one seriously tried to hire him (just as weird as Miami firing him - I still don't know what they were thinking). I'd want Flores as well, but Lovie isn't a bad choice. Not having an elite QB, assuming Watson is traded, is Houston's biggest problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 53 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Florio floated out an interesting theory. He believes that Easterby always wanted to hire his friend Josh McCown. He couldn’t hire him last year so they hired Culley to set him up to fail. Thanks the the Flores lawsuit which named the Culley incident, they couldn’t hire McCown this year either. So Lovie, who was never a finalist, suddenly because a candidate. He thinks Lovie is set up to fail again like Culley to finally hire McCown https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/02/07/jack-easterby-continues-to-stay-a-step-ahead-of-everyone/ Florio knows all apparently. That’s quite a journey so your pal can become the HC. Wasn’t Florio the guy who floated BD is out if Bills lose to Pats in first round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2022 record 3-14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, msw2112 said: My first reaction was that this was an OK, but uninspired hire. He has a lot of experience as a NFL head coach and got the Bears to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman at QB. Rex Grossman! That said, I did not remember that he had an abysmal 2 years as head coach in Tampa. He also didn't do much at Illinois. So, my re-formed opinion is that this is not a good hire. Frankly, I think Leslie Frazier, Byron Leftwich, Eric Bienamy or Todd Bowles would be all be better hires, if they really felt strongly about a minority hire. Flores would have been a great hire, out of the gate, but I can't see a team hiring a guy is in active litigation against the league. I wonder if Flores would have been a candidate (or hired) if he had not filed the suit. I'd think so. Agree 100% with this post. Seemed unfair that he lost the Chicago HC job when he did. Yes he had been there a long time but he was fired after a 10 win season. He had 56.3% win rate(McD is 58%) a coach of the year and a DB appearance That said he has been terrible ever since. An uninspiring hire but he does bring experience and he has had some success before. I was/am a Todd Bowles fan. I wanted him instead of Rex. I think he deserves another chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mama Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffaloRebound said: Do the Texans get two 3rd picks? They should since Smith was with Texans last season and now he’s a head coach. What they could do is hire Culley back as associate HC and fire Lovie next year and promote Culley-- rinse and repeat -- 2 extra 3rds every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Jeez....are you sure you dont want Frazier Texans? Number 1 defense in the league last year....what are you waiting for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 hour ago, FrenchConnection said: The Texans are such a tire fire that they had to pick from an internal hire and a backup QB with literally no coaching experience at any level. Yep. If you are a quality candidate worthy of obtaining interest from multiple teams, the Texans would NOT be your choice. They made their dumpster, not they have to sleep in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 2 hours ago, papazoid said: a good hire Agreed. For the rest of the AFC South. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 (edited) Lovie is already there under contract, so he might as well take the significant raise. Nobody else is going there, that's for sure. Basically "here's $25 million to train McCown for a year or two" I'm sure a large part of his job will be hiring McCown as OC and training him to be the next HC. Edited February 7, 2022 by TheFunPolice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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