Metal Man Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: No, the other owners will turn on their own in a heartbeat if the person becomes the black sheep of the league and threatens the long term economic viability of the sport. Who do you think forced Donald Sterling out of the NBA? 25 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Tough to compare the NBA, and the way Silver and those owners run that league, with the drunken fratboy free-for-all of NFL ownership. Isn't this basically the same reason the league forced Jerry Richardson to sell the Panthers? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who is going to force these guys out? Goodell works for them. And the other owners (like Irsay, Haslam, Jones, etc) certainly don't want to start holding each other accountable since they're almost all dirty dogs in some way or another. Even though they should be removed, Snyder and Ross aren't going anywhere. There are various provisions in ownership agreements in the NFL that give the league leverage to force the sale of a team through legal action. Reference Jerry Richardson and the Panthers. Fortunately that mess didn't evolve into a drawn out legal battle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Metal Man said: Isn't this basically the same reason the league forced Jerry Richardson to sell the Panthers? 21 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said: There are various provisions in ownership agreements in the NFL that give the league leverage to force the sale of a team through legal action. Reference Jerry Richardson and the Panthers. Fortunately that mess didn't evolve into a drawn out legal battle. Reading back, it seems Richardson was already thinking about selling since both of his sons had left the team operations years before. He announced his intent to sell the team before the NFL even started its investigation. Pretty much the same day the Sports Illustrated story dropped. Not exactly the same as how Snyder has handled it. And so far, the NFL hasnt really had to force anyone out. edit: SI story dropped Dec 17, 2017. Richardson announced his intent to sell Dec 18. Edited February 3, 2022 by DrDawkinstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who is going to force these guys out? Goodell works for them. And the other owners (like Irsay, Haslam, Jones, etc) certainly don't want to start holding each other accountable since they're almost all dirty dogs in some way or another. Even though they should be removed, Snyder and Ross aren't going anywhere. Owners have been forced to sell their respective teams before. It happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, MJS said: Owners have been forced to sell their respective teams before. It happens. Again, has it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Snyder should be in jail 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Sounds like they should have changed their name to Washington Going Commando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Apparently Real Sports (the HBO show) has a podcast and they get into even more gory detail. Snyder is a scumbag. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-sports-podcast/id1549749078?i=1000549837226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who is going to force these guys out? Goodell works for them. And the other owners (like Irsay, Haslam, Jones, etc) certainly don't want to start holding each other accountable since they're almost all dirty dogs in some way or another. Even though they should be removed, Snyder and Ross aren't going anywhere. Brian Flores says this happened: "May we all get what we want, and never what we deserve!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Metal Man said: Isn't this basically the same reason the league forced Jerry Richardson to sell the Panthers? He could have said no. Just like Snyder most certainly will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Ross hasn't been found guilty of anything yet, so people calling for their "removal" can't be listened to. And you're correct, no owner has been forced to sell his team (Richardson volunteered) under Goodell's tenure. Ross, by the way, has come out swinging, denying everything and pledging complete cooperation with the NFL investigation. He is a lawyer and an actual self-made real estate tycoon. Related Companies is a massive RE player in NYC and worldwide. This could get exciting soon. Fines, suspension, draft picks. This is like resigning when you are about to be fired, I think. We will never know for sure. IF, and it’s a BIG IF, it can be PROVEN that Ross was willing to pay to tank games, that is a line that can NOT be crossed. Maybe Haslam and some other guys are are not model citizens, but offering to pay to tank games is just unacceptable. The ultimate sin. This is especially true with the emergence of legalized gambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Augie said: This is like resigning when you are about to be fired, I think. We will never know for sure. or committing suicide after being convicted with murder and appealing so you get "off" scott free. 26 minutes ago, Augie said: This is like resigning when you are about to be fired, I think. We will never know for sure. IF, and it’s a BIG IF, it can be PROVEN that Ross was willing to pay to tank games, that is a line that can NOT be crossed. Maybe Haslam and some other guys are are not model citizens, but offering to pay to tank games is just unacceptable. The ultimate sin. This is especially true with the emergence of legalized gambling. Well he needed to make back money lost by mishandling by GM so insisting on tank so he could put bets on the under makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 7 hours ago, Limeaid said: Dan $nyder will have a command performance in front of senate committee. He really wants to abandon stadium and move back to DC but with as many bad marks he has gotten not much of a chance. Dont you mean a "commander" performance? 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RobbRiddick Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I always imagine Snyder conducts business like this man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 17 hours ago, PatsFanNH said: Ross will probably get heavily fined and lose draft picks, I would guess at least 1 first rounder if the NFL finds Flores credible. (Integrity of the game) I see Giants facing whatever penalty the Rooney rule gives out for violating it. Snyder may be forced to step away from the team and Banned from stadiums. If the allegations proven true. Giants didn’t violate the Rooney rule. So that’s not happening. I also doubt either of the other owners face major penalties either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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