MJS Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I think that poll is too simplistic. Not even going to answer because it is WAY more complicates than just the caliber of players and coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1. Boettger, Morse, Ford, Feliciano suck. Suppose you could add Williams also. 2. Star, Butler, Phillips, Harry all replacement level. Soft in the interior. 3. Edmunds might be the most overrated Bill in history. Soft at point if attack, can't shed blocks, constantly over pursues, constantly gets caught in the wash. 4. Singletary and Moss don't belong on a NFL roster. Slow, indecisive, can't read blocking scheme(Moss). Small and slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 19 hours ago, Chaos said: chalking that one up to "any given Sunday." Unfortunately that may be the game that keeps us out of the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Southern Bills Fan said: Unfortunately that may be the game that keeps us out of the playoffs. In all four of the other losses, I think the other coaches are simply better head coaches. Over time given equal rosters I think all four of those coaches win the majority of games vs. Coach McDermott (not all of them, but the majority). Meyer is truly inexperienced at the NFL level (and not at all impressive as a rookie) 16 minutes ago, noacls said: 1. Boettger, Morse, Ford, Feliciano suck. Suppose you could add Williams also. 2. Star, Butler, Phillips, Harry all replacement level. Soft in the interior. 3. Edmunds might be the most overrated Bill in history. Soft at point if attack, can't shed blocks, constantly over pursues, constantly gets caught in the wash. 4. Singletary and Moss don't belong on a NFL roster. Slow, indecisive, can't read blocking scheme(Moss). Small and slow. Morse was all-pro level when signed by the Bills. Wayne Teller excelled after leaving the Bills. Is it possible it is more oline coaching than talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Immediate pressure in pass protection and complete lack of running game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Outside of Diggs the WRs are pretty meh at this point in their careers and Davis is too inconsistent. It’s a need this off-season IMO. I don't disagree that WR is an off-season need, but I also don't think it's fair to say that Davis has been inconsistent. I think his playing time is what's been inconsistent, which is a head-scratcher for me. Sidelining Davis and benching McKenzie has hurt our offense and that is poor coaching/personnel management, IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: I don't disagree that WR is an off-season need, but I also don't think it's fair to say that Davis has been inconsistent. I think his playing time is what's been inconsistent, which is a head-scratcher for me. Sidelining Davis and benching McKenzie has hurt our offense and that is poor coaching/personnel management, IMO. Are we still "trusting the process"? Edited December 12, 2021 by Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chaos said: Our we still "trusting the process"? Well, we're one of the most penalized teams in the NFL. Our HC has benched one of the best return men in the NFL, who is also a chain-mover on offense. And we've stopped letting Josh Allen use his legs in the red zone. I'm gonna say, "no." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Just now, ScottLaw said: He drops too many balls still IMO. Fair enough, but at this point, I'd rather have him on the field than Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: He drops too many balls still IMO. Knox had that problem in prior seasons and until last week, seemed to have solved the problem. It may take on-field experience to improve this aspect of receiving. Edited December 12, 2021 by Chaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Knox still drops balls… he may have cost the Bills game alone last week with miscues and drops. I did except out last week in my comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Chaos said: In all four of the other losses, I think the other coaches are simply better head coaches. Over time given equal rosters I think all four of those coaches win the majority of games vs. Coach McDermott (not all of them, but the majority). Meyer is truly inexperienced at the NFL level (and not at all impressive as a rookie) Morse was all-pro level when signed by the Bills. Wayne Teller excelled after leaving the Bills. Is it possible it is more oline coaching than talent? Good question. You have to think OL coach is on the hot seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Primary cause? Patriots, Colts, Titans & Steelers outscored us. 🤷♂️ Pretty simple, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 If Josh doesn't mess up on the QB sneak, we beat the Titans. If 2 tds aren't dropped and had Breida not fumbled on the NE 30 yd line we beat the Pats. Too bad you didn't provide a 4th option, like: "Bills offense not taking advantage of plays when presented". Yes, even Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 It IS coaching. Stop trying to be “tough” by running the ball. Get up by 14-17 and the opponents run game vanishes, and your D is playing to its strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Mistakes, self induced, had an impact on those games. That is on the players. Lack of execution is on the players. Coaching has been spotty and game plans with the lack of adjustments early in games is a problem. All these together leads to losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Smith Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 23 hours ago, Chaos said: Every football game has a unique set of circumstances. Reasons for winning and losing can certainly vary. But over time there are certain trends one might notice. In four of the five Bills losses this season, I think the Bills were clearly outcoached. There is not a single loss I blame on the other team having better players. Of course this is an opinion. I am curious as to other peoples opinions. Total BS. Those teams ran over us and we couldn't run. That is the problem. We drafted a warm weather team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 23 hours ago, Chaos said: It seems like players that can't execute might not be good players. Got it...so Josh Allen isnt good because he lost his footing on the sneak against Tenn. Diggs sucks too because he didn't haul in the TD against the Pats. Great analysis there chief *sarcasm* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 56 minutes ago, Bruce Smith said: Total BS. Those teams ran over us and we couldn't run. That is the problem. We drafted a warm weather team. So you maintain our coaches and players are better than the other teams but they beat us because of weather. Ok. 26 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Got it...so Josh Allen isnt good because he lost his footing on the sneak against Tenn. Diggs sucks too because he didn't haul in the TD against the Pats. Great analysis there chief *sarcasm* so you are saying we keep losing games even though we are outcoaching and outplaying them that day. wierd analysis, but you are entitled to be wierd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Offense....in every one of those losses, the offense did not show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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