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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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Ukrainian partisans are back at work assassinating collaborating officials.  The Russians seem to using lots of husband-and-wife teams as colonial administrators. 

 

There's talk of another encirclement of Russia troops, this time in Lyman. That's coming from both Russian and Ukrainian sources.

 

And there's a video floating around purportedly from an induction center for Russia's recent conscripts. An official there yells that theyre going to be enlisted and get two weeks of training.

 

Which I'm hoping is just Russian misinformation, because 2 weeks of training is meaningless. It's enough time to teach people how to put on their gear, load and fire a weapon, and start improving their fitness. Deploying whole units of these guys to an active part of the front is assisted suicide.  Who knows what the plan is for these guys, if there even is a plan. 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

Ukrainian partisans are back at work assassinating collaborating officials.  The Russians seem to using lots of husband-and-wife teams as colonial administrators. 

 

There's talk of another encirclement of Russia troops, this time in Lyman. That's coming from both Russian and Ukrainian sources.

 

And there's a video floating around purportedly from an induction center for Russia's recent conscripts. An official there yells that theyre going to be enlisted and get two weeks of training.

 

Which I'm hoping is just Russian misinformation, because 2 weeks of training is meaningless. It's enough time to teach people how to put on their gear, load and fire a weapon, and start improving their fitness. Deploying whole units of these guys to an active part of the front is assisted suicide.  Who knows what the plan is for these guys, if there even is a plan. 

 

 

 

Not in the least surprising.   Hopefully Russians come to their senses and overthrow this tool.  In the past I'd always thought him a brilliant autocrat/sociopath .  He's lost now.  Health? Surrounded by ineptitude?  The more the people are put through the meat grinder the higher the chance he eats a bullet.

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50 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Not in the least surprising.   Hopefully Russians come to their senses and overthrow this tool.  In the past I'd always thought him a brilliant autocrat/sociopath .  He's lost now.  Health? Surrounded by ineptitude?  The more the people are put through the meat grinder the higher the chance he eats a bullet.

We can only hope 

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14 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Not in the least surprising.   Hopefully Russians come to their senses and overthrow this tool.  In the past I'd always thought him a brilliant autocrat/sociopath .  He's lost now.  Health? Surrounded by ineptitude?  The more the people are put through the meat grinder the higher the chance he eats a bullet.

 

Emphasis on meat for the grinder.  The "partial" part of the partial mobilization is pretty much a sham. Russia said they're inducting 300k men, but only men with prior military training and/or combat experience.

 

Their actual goal may be as high as 1.2 million, and they're grabbing anyone. Guys in their 50s and 60s, medical doctors, skilled workers from defense manufacturers, doesn't matter. Check out today's ISW report. 

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22 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Not in the least surprising.   Hopefully Russians come to their senses and overthrow this tool.  In the past I'd always thought him a brilliant autocrat/sociopath .  He's lost now.  Health? Surrounded by ineptitude?  The more the people are put through the meat grinder the higher the chance he eats a bullet.

If that reaction to the mobilization order is real it's not exactly inspiring, fleeing in droves doesn't exactly sound like they're about to take their country back from a narcissistic sociopath.

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Meanwhile, noted libertarian and opponent of the surveillance state Edward Snowden has found an open, transparent, civil rights abiding country more to his liking. Congratulations, Comrade Snowden! And you will also be exempt from Putin’s free and fair draft, although I’m sure he’d let you volunteer. 

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3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

https://apnews.com/article/edward-snowden-russian-citizenship-441ab3c037b91145d17f2de2237f834d?taid=6331d2d3ad85850001c8e9f1
 

Meanwhile, noted libertarian and opponent of the surveillance state Edward Snowden has found an open, transparent, civil rights abiding country more to his liking. Congratulations, Comrade Snowden! And you will also be exempt from Putin’s free and fair draft, although I’m sure he’d let you volunteer. 

Putin is really scrounging for change trying to find political wins for himself.

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The stuff coming out of Russia right now is insane. Widespread draft dodging, attacks on recruiting offices, mass flight to the borders, at least one recruiter murdered. It's like they're speedrunning Vietnam.

 

If you're going to make a conscript army work, you need a just cause, some damn good propaganda, or both. Ukraine has both and Russia has neither. 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

The stuff coming out of Russia right now is insane. Widespread draft dodging, attacks on recruiting offices, mass flight to the borders, at least one recruiter murdered. It's like they're speedrunning Vietnam.

 

If you're going to make a conscript army work, you need a just cause, some damn good propaganda, or both. Ukraine has both and Russia has neither. 

 

 

 

Its only a matter of time before they all show up at the Texas border requesting asylum. 

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1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Its only a matter of time before they all show up at the Texas border requesting asylum. 

All the better reason to have a pro-democracy foreign policy. If Venezuela had a functioning democracy DeSantis couldn't be kidnapping those legal immigrants and shipping them across state lines 

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23 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

All the better reason to have a pro-democracy foreign policy. If Venezuela had a functioning democracy DeSantis couldn't be kidnapping those legal immigrants and shipping them across state lines 

The fake liberals love to conjure up all sorts of "crimes" in an attempt to redirect the main theme of the story when somebody embarrasses them and exposes their hypocrisy.  In this case they welcome and embrace everybody, just not to their community or neighborhood.    

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33 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

All the better reason to have a pro-democracy foreign policy. If Venezuela had a functioning democracy DeSantis couldn't be kidnapping those legal immigrants and shipping them across state lines 

 

That is precisely the problem of not enforcing our borders or immigration law at the national level.

 

As long as they can come here with ease, there is no reason to force domestic change in their own country.

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