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Democracy’s Fiery Ordeal: The War in Ukraine 🇺🇦


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1 minute ago, sherpa said:

For what it's worth, Biden was a strident advocate for invasion of Iraq in 2003. That is his history, no matter how be bungled the attempt to confuse the issue during the campaign.

 

Still, it is hard to believe that Russia can make it through a second winter next year.

They simply cannot handle the economic collapse.

Now that Germany has constructed and is operating three LNG terminals, the price of Russian oil is bound to plummet.

Very hard to see how the Russians can continue to fund this failed effort.

seeing would be believing cause the rubble and Russian economy are not struggling yet.  

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

like I said. spoken like a keyboard warrior sitting on his couch in in a first world that has never seen an actual warzone.

 

BTW. you think this is what o was caught on that hot mike moment telling the Russian leader he would have more time after the election, but then the orange dude won?

 

American and Russian Military industrial complexes love pro proxi war cheerleaders.

 

 

Did you graduate from high school? 

8 minutes ago, sherpa said:

For what it's worth, Biden was a strident advocate for invasion of Iraq in 2003. That is his history, no matter how be bungled the attempt to confuse the issue during the campaign.

 

Still, it is hard to believe that Russia can make it through a second winter next year.

They simply cannot handle the economic collapse.

Now that Germany has constructed and is operating three LNG terminals, the price of Russian oil is bound to plummet.

Very hard to see how the Russians can continue to fund this failed effort.

Not to mention a large part of the working age population of males has either been killed, wounded or has fled the country. On top of the fact the increased repression won't be good for the economy, either. Putin has run his country right into the ground 

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1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

do you realize ad hominem is propaganda. really lazy propaganda to boot.

 

 

But, if you only say that to Democratic posters, and not to the people that do it all the time to Dem posters, doesn't that make you guilty of lazy propaganda? 

 

It also makes you a hypocrite 

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25 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

what's not shocking is the statist calling anyone that doesn't agree with their corporate/statist narrative, insults.

 

its actually so 2016.

 

 

 

Isolationism, protectionism, anarchism/ultra-libertarianism etc all should return to 1805 where they belong. They do not belong in a modern world where everyone on the planet is connected by the internet. 

 

Wealthy nations have a moral obligation to aid poor ones being marched all over by rogue actors. We did in Bosnia, we sure as hell should have in Rwanda, and now we are in Ukraine. 

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19 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But, if you only say that to Democratic posters, and not to the people that do it all the time to Dem posters, doesn't that make you guilty of lazy propaganda? 

 

It also makes you a hypocrite 


I love the smell of irony in the morning. It’s smells like………

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42 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

seeing would be believing cause the rubble and Russian economy are not struggling yet.  

 

 

 

I'd say both are struggling.

Russian GDP is down 4-6% this year, depending on who you believe.

The Ruble is losing ground and bound to get worse in spite of huge restrictions put in place by Moscow to prop it up.

Slow asphyxiations. 

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30 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I'd say both are struggling.

Russian GDP is down 4-6% this year, depending on who you believe.

The Ruble is losing ground and bound to get worse in spite of huge restrictions put in place by Moscow to prop it up.

Slow asphyxiations. 

Like I said, when I see it I will believe it.  

 

 

 the Rubble is back in the 14-16 cent to the dollar range. its been there since feb/march when it was at 7 cents...

 

just like an embargo.  one must cut off all flow to asphyxiate 

 

China, india, Pakistan, and a host of smaller asian and middle east countries are buying Russian OIL Non stop.

 

 

 

 

 

 

28 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Good, let's develop the weapons of the future now, so democracy can be strong for our children and grandchildren 

Thats some epic doublespeak.

 

29 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Good, let's develop the weapons of the future now, so democracy can be strong for our children and grandchildren 

So your trying to justify to yourself, why you now support the MIC?

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

 

Isolationism, protectionism, anarchism/ultra-libertarianism etc all should return to 1805 where they belong. They do not belong in a modern world where everyone on the planet is connected by the internet. 

 

Wealthy nations have a moral obligation to aid poor ones being marched all over by rogue actors. We did in Bosnia, we sure as hell should have in Rwanda, and now we are in Ukraine. 

So congress can declare WAR.

 

that reply sounds very similar to the old righty war hawk argument.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

Martial law.

no more opposition party.

MIC ensuring civilians are fodder for this boondogle

 

who will be voting for what and when in this thing you call democracy in ukraine?

 

 

 

 

You are obviously bitter. Making no sense at all. But carry on, this republic allows you to spew ignorance. 

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10 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are obviously bitter. Making no sense at all. But carry on, this republic allows you to spew ignorance. 

 

 

Ignorance is cheerleading a war that nobody but the .001% global power brokers want. 

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4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You are obviously bitter. Making no sense at all. But carry on, this republic allows you to spew ignorance. 

Did he declare martial law?

Did he remove the opposition party?

Banned churches?

 

How many civilians have died?  how many more will die with escalation?

 

What is the actual goal of the war?

 

 

 

this cheerleading for the MIC is at levels that would make the old bush/Cheney war monger supporters take notes

 

 

2 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

Ignorance is cheerleading a war that nobody but the .001% global power brokers want. 

Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before
Так же, как и прежде

Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

 

I don't need your stinking war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh

 

That old Guns and roses song seems to hit the spot anymore.

 

 

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