Roundybout Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 There are discussions on here that Beane is a terrible drafter, can't judge talent, etc. I am not really inclined to believe this. I think he's a great GM and am happy to have him. That said, I was thinking about what players are truly busts under his tenure. I think they are: Cody Ford: though he had a better day yesterday, a high second round pick needs to be a starter every week, not objectively the worst lineman on the team at times. Harrison Phillips: I'm not sure how much that ACL tear did, but he's been awful. There are multiple videos of him being tossed like a ragdoll yesterday by the Colts' offensive line. Zack Moss: it's time to write Moss off. He might be a decent goal line back, but he's way too slow to do anything else. He's the running back version of Reggie Ragland. I don't want to include Epenesa or Oliver here because they HAVE contributed plenty already. Oliver in particular has come on this season; he's had about five sacks called back due to a penalty. My eye is on them, however. I don't include picks made after round 4 since those are often crapshoots. He's gotten good value in guys like Taron Johnson and Tyler Bass, though. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Zay Jones 2nd round with the 37th overall pick in the 2017 Draft 2nd round 41st pick was Dalvin Cook RB Cook on the Bills woulda been nice today! 2 2 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 After yesterday I’m even more pissed about the Epenesa pick. Don’t get me wrong, I like Epenesa but I would’ve been happier if Beane would’ve traded up a couple of picks and grabbed Jonathan Taylor. I beat the drums hard during that draft wishing Beane would make that move. Taylor would’ve made this offense complete. Although I know it takes two to tango to make a trade but I’d hate to think he didn’t think it necessary because he drafted Motor. Ohhh, what could’ve been. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: After yesterday I’m even more pissed about the Epenesa pick. Don’t get me wrong, I like Epenesa but I would’ve been happier if Beane would’ve traded up a couple of picks and grabbed Jonathan Taylor. I beat the drums hard during that draft wishing Beane would make that move. Taylor would’ve made this offense complete. Although I know it takes two to tango to make a trade but I’d hate to think he didn’t think it necessary because he drafted Motor. Ohhh, what could’ve been. I always thought the same during that draft regarding Jonathan Taylor! Taylor just ooozed talent as a star to be 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: After yesterday I’m even more pissed about the Epenesa pick. Don’t get me wrong, I like Epenesa but I would’ve been happier if Beane would’ve traded up a couple of picks and grabbed Jonathan Taylor. I beat the drums hard during that draft wishing Beane would make that move. Taylor would’ve made this offense complete. Although I know it takes two to tango to make a trade but I’d hate to think he didn’t think it necessary because he drafted Motor. Ohhh, what could’ve been. Agree. Taylor looked like the second coming of Adrian Peterson hoing into that draft and had been doing it for years. Looked like a cant miss. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sugar High JA17 said: Zay Jones 2nd round with the 37th overall pick in the 2017 Draft 2nd round 41st pick was Dalvin Cook RB Cook on the Bills woulda been nice today! I ignored the 2017 draft since it wasn't clear who was calling the shots. But I agree with that one, though who knows if we would have drafted Cook with Shady still playing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: I ignored the 2017 draft since it wasn't clear who was calling the shots. But I agree with that one, though who knows if we would have drafted Cook with Shady still playing well. You nailed it on those buddy! Thanks for taking the time also! Cody Ford: though he had a better day yesterday, a high second round pick needs to be a starter every week, not objectively the worst lineman on the team at times. Harrison Phillips: I'm not sure how much that ACL tear did, but he's been awful. There are multiple videos of him being tossed like a ragdoll yesterday by the Colts' offensive line. Zack Moss: it's time to write Moss off. He might be a decent goal line back, but he's way too slow to do anything else. He's the running back version of Reggie Ragland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 When it comes to Ford and the Offensive Linemen on this team, it’s hard to write them off as busts until they get a chance in different offensive scheme. See Wyatt Teller. And for those clamoring for Taylor, do you really think he would’ve been used properly here? Heck he probably would’ve been plastered to the bench the way he started his rookie year with Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) How did they invest so much in the D line and no one can get to the Qb. Edited November 22, 2021 by clearwater cadet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: There are discussions on here that Beane is a terrible drafter, can't judge talent, etc. I am not really inclined to believe this. I think he's a great GM and am happy to have him. That said, I was thinking about what players are truly busts under his tenure. I think they are: Cody Ford: though he had a better day yesterday, a high second round pick needs to be a starter every week, not objectively the worst lineman on the team at times. Harrison Phillips: I'm not sure how much that ACL tear did, but he's been awful. There are multiple videos of him being tossed like a ragdoll yesterday by the Colts' offensive line. Zack Moss: it's time to write Moss off. He might be a decent goal line back, but he's way too slow to do anything else. He's the running back version of Reggie Ragland. I don't want to include Epenesa or Oliver here because they HAVE contributed plenty already. Oliver in particular has come on this season; he's had about five sacks called back due to a penalty. My eye is on them, however. I don't include picks made after round 4 since those are often crapshoots. He's gotten good value in guys like Taron Johnson and Tyler Bass, though. If you are going to mention Moss, then you absolutely have to throw Singletary’s name in there too. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 24 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: After yesterday I’m even more pissed about the Epenesa pick. Don’t get me wrong, I like Epenesa but I would’ve been happier if Beane would’ve traded up a couple of picks and grabbed Jonathan Taylor. I beat the drums hard during that draft wishing Beane would make that move. Taylor would’ve made this offense complete. Although I know it takes two to tango to make a trade but I’d hate to think he didn’t think it necessary because he drafted Motor. Ohhh, what could’ve been. 21 minutes ago, Sugar High JA17 said: I always thought the same during that draft regarding Jonathan Taylor! Taylor just ooozed talent as a star to be There were many including myself who wanted us to trade up a little to get Taylor. But in hindsight we still had a OL with zero run blocking talent. Fix the OL first then worry about what RB is available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, Sugar High JA17 said: Zay Jones 2nd round with the 37th overall pick in the 2017 Draft 2nd round 41st pick was Dalvin Cook RB Cook on the Bills woulda been nice today! Beane was not the GM. He was hired after the draft. Whaley and McDermott had an amazing draft in 2017, the Jones pick was one of the only misses. White, Dawkins, and Milano were hits. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reader Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, whorlnut said: If you are going to mention Moss, then you absolutely have to throw Singletary’s name in there too. Disagree, at this point Singletary is looking considerably better. Also, I think what hurts us from the drafts (mentioned before) is that we lack star power. We get a lot of solid players but aside from Allen we don't have anyone who can take over a game, that we've gotten from a draft. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, whorlnut said: If you are going to mention Moss, then you absolutely have to throw Singletary’s name in there too. Yeah, Singletary's 5 YPA are horrific. Luckily, he only gets 8 carries/game, otherwise we might have a run game. 3 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: After yesterday I’m even more pissed about the Epenesa pick. Don’t get me wrong, I like Epenesa but I would’ve been happier if Beane would’ve traded up a couple of picks and grabbed Jonathan Taylor. I beat the drums hard during that draft wishing Beane would make that move. Taylor would’ve made this offense complete. Although I know it takes two to tango to make a trade but I’d hate to think he didn’t think it necessary because he drafted Motor. Ohhh, what could’ve been. Link? 1 hour ago, Sugar High JA17 said: I always thought the same during that draft regarding Jonathan Taylor! Taylor just ooozed talent as a star to be Link? 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: There were many including myself who wanted us to trade up a little to get Taylor. But in hindsight we still had a OL with zero run blocking talent. Fix the OL first then worry about what RB is available. Link? 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Every week Singletery is averaging about 5 yrd a carry. And he runs about 3-5 times. I don’t get it. Can’t we lose tryin to be balanced one week. It would be refreshing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 hiring daboll is a bust 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Sugar High JA17 said: Zay Jones 2nd round with the 37th overall pick in the 2017 Draft 2nd round 41st pick was Dalvin Cook RB Cook on the Bills woulda been nice today! Brandon Beane wasn't even our general manager Do you even watch the Bills in 2017 LOL 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Trades are hard to assume. But Bills could have traded the AJE and Moss picks and drafted Jonathan Taylor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Jake Fromm deserves a mention. A complete wasted pick. You can't write him off yet but I'm skeptical of Tommy Doyle. Trey Smith was on the board and I thought he made a hell of a lot more sense if you're taking a flyer on a guy. Cody Ford. Pretty obvious choice there. I'm done with Moss. The only thing he can apparently do is pass block. I'd like to have a running back who can run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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