Gisele Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 League officials are changing the outcome of games. Congress may need to look at this. 4 3 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleSammy Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 It won't be long until you see the gambling houses including "will an official's call determine the outcome of the game" as one of the selections in their same game parlay betting options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eee1776 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 YES. At first I blamed bad officals but now I blame greed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sbucholz Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 As sports gambling takes a hold with the proliferation of online sites and betting options,it's just a matter of time before the integrity of sports is severely compromised. Factor in the " new" taunting rule that has been emphasized this year that nobody quite seems to understand and the environment is ripe for corruption and surprises. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwater10 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Gisele said: Congress may need to look at this. From Robert Kraft's personal suite? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Gisele said: League officials are changing the outcome of games. Congress may need to look at this. Yes. That is the answer. Bring in federal government to address poor officiating. WTF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, BTB said: Yes. That is the answer. Bring in federal government to address poor officiating. WTF. Yes because Congress is a beacon of integrity. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, BTB said: Yes. That is the answer. Bring in federal government to address poor officiating. WTF. This is not poor officiating. It is the blatant fixing of games. This is exactly why gambling was never allowed around pro sports... until now. (see Pete Rose) Now we have let the cat out of the bag, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 minute ago, clayboy54 said: This is not poor officiating. It is the blatant fixing of games. This is exactly why gambling was never allowed around pro sports... until now. (see Pete Rose) Now we have let the cat out of the bag, so to speak. Stop it. The games aren’t fixed. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Gisele said: League officials are changing the outcome of games. Congress may need to look at this. While I don't think Congress should get involved it's getting hard to blame the bizarre officiating seen in almost EVERY NFL game as simple incompetence. It really seems like they pick a team to call a run of penalties on at key moments. And since so many of the penalties are subjective (roughing the passer, taunting, pass interference) or happen on almost every play (illegal contact & holding) when they choose to throw the flag is key here. Last night I saw one of the worst taunting penalties called on Chicago that I've seen this year. While this new penalty is bad enough they called it on guy for starring at the Pittsburgh bench from HALF A FIELD away. Whats next brain implants to catch players thinking bad thoughts about someone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Knowing Congress, many of them have probably invested in online gambling companies so their reaction to this problem may be slightly delayed. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) Organized crime or hell just greedy organizations of any kind, globally, have an awful lot of people to "influence" to push the desired outcome of these games. "Hey, I see you've got three kids nearing college age...and boy, college is *so* expensive..." or "those gambling debts are piling up...shame you're behind on that mortgage because of them..." Just friends helping friends you know. If you were on the officiating crew or hell, the ENTIRE officiating crew, and you were smart, you could have a family member set up some shell corp or LLC and run your gambling for you, depositing the winnings into an account the NFL couldn't trace back to you. The Corp./LLC does something legitimately, sells used tractor parts whatever, on Ebay, who cares. Then, after your retirement, under IRS regulations, said family member simply "gifts" you money annually from said company or the company purchases real estate with it which they later transact to you for $1. Of course it's *your* gambling money the whole time, but neatly laundered through various legitimate business opportunities. As a crew, I wouldn't fix the outcome of the games because that'd attract too much scrutiny, but I'd be interested in the prop bets and spreads. Edited November 9, 2021 by dpberr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, LittleSammy said: It won't be long until you see the gambling houses including "will an official's call determine the outcome of the game" as one of the selections in their same game parlay betting options. It doesn't already? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, dpberr said: Organized crime or hell just greedy organizations of any kind, globally, have an awful lot of people to "influence" to push the desired outcome of these games. "Hey, I see you've got three kids nearing college age...and boy, college is *so* expensive..." or "those gambling debts are piling up...shame you're behind on that mortgage because of them..." Just friends helping friends you know. If you were on the officiating crew or hell, the ENTIRE officiating crew, and you were smart, you could have a family member set up some shell corp or LLC and run your gambling for you, depositing the winnings into an account the NFL couldn't trace back to you. The Corp./LLC does something legitimately, sells used tractor parts whatever, on Ebay, who cares. Then, after your retirement, under IRS regulations, said family member simply "gifts" you money annually from said company or the company purchases real estate with it which they later transact to you for $1. Of course it's *your* gambling money the whole time, but neatly laundered through various legitimate business opportunities. As a crew, I wouldn't fix the outcome of the games because that'd attract too much scrutiny, but I'd be interested in the prop bets and spreads. The tinfoil hat association approves of this post. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, BTB said: The tinfoil hat association approves of this post. We now live in a tinfoil country. Conspiracies now don’t need to true, just enough people need to believe they are to be destructive. This narrative for the NFL will only get worse. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, BTB said: Stop it. The games aren’t fixed. Prove it. Because there is more than enough to show it the other way. Edited November 9, 2021 by MAJBobby 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BTB said: Stop it. The games aren’t fixed. I am convinced that the outcomes are heavily influenced in advance. If you don't want to call this "fixed" then fine. Edited November 9, 2021 by clayboy54 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Prove it. Because there is more than enough to show it the other way. Really? Where is the proof? Have refs been arrested or fired for fixing games? Any national reports written about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I don't have proof of anything but these officials don't make a lot of money and with gambling now encouraged by the league, it's not difficult to believe refs can be made some cash offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Are you guys under the impression that gambling on the NFL is a new thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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