LABILLBACKER Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Captain Hindsight said: Every NFL team has an “oh *****” list. Finding out one of the best RBs in NfL history, who actually played pretty well last season on a bad team, is a good thing At least it wasn't Gore..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Bills don't need anymore backs, just some roadgraders please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Why would they look at this POS? Wins at any cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Tears shed on this board would’ve been epic if he signed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, JoPoy88 said: Not sure if I should be impressed or disgusted I was flattered when Beane called to inquire about me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Stay far away from OBJ. He’s a massive head-case. A dangerous person to have on a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: The Bills love old running backs- flies in the face of rational thinking...I just don’t get why it’s so hard for them to field a competent rushing attack...baffling actually... I don't think it's baffling at all. When they began working together, Beane and McD looked around the NFL and noted the obvious trend: professional football is more and more about the pass, and less and less about the run. Passing is the present and future of football. So McD hired an OC in Brian Daboll who had a deep understanding of modern passing concepts along with a basic understanding of the running game. Meanwhile Beane starting acquiring an elite QB and WRs as well as offensive linemen who were better in pass pro than run protection. And just for fun, he spent a couple of late second-day draft picks on RBs. Yeah, it would be great if we could build our running attack to be as effective as our passing attack. I know I would love to see that. But a GM has only so many high draft picks and only so much cap money to spend. So Beane focused on the passing attack. The net result is we have one of the most potent offenses in the NFL. It's hard to say Beane was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaBillsJunkie Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, JaCrispy said: I just don’t get why it’s so hard for them to field a competent rushing attack...baffling actually... My take is that it is hard to find OL who excel at mauling for the rushing attack AND finesse for pass blocking. Then you have to get all five working together and scheme to their strengths and the strengths of your offense. With Josh being as good as he is, they know it is better to have an OL that is better at pass blocking. That being said, we still have some weaknesses. I don't think Feliciano ever really got his full strength back after the pec injury. He was more of the mauler type to balance the guys like Morse and Dawkins who's strength was pass protection. So that left side doesn't have that push where Feliciano used to bowl people over to open up a rush lane. On the right side, Ford just never developed like they hoped. The Covid bout didn't help. That's a strength and endurance zapper and we don't know if his lungs are 100%. The Brown/Williams experiment is just beginning and they both had injuries. Also our WR and not the best blockers so CB's when they see run, can shed and pursue quicker to make sure an RB doesn't get past that second level. Neither of our RB's is quick enough to pop those runs. Daboll also likes to run into the teeth of a defense a lot. With the interior OL being our weakest point, this doesn't yield the results we desire. Supposedly we are a spread offense, so it would be nice if we could also develop ways to spread the run game. Which I think goes back to WR's who can't block well enough. Luckily, Josh is awesome and our pass game is good enough. I'd like to see improvements in play calling, the run game and the OL play so we can dictate what type of offense we want to run, especially in the playoffs when teams will scheme to stop our passing attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Peterson is a complete POS. It's incomprehensible to me why low character guys like Josh Gordon, AP, etc. continue to get chances to play. Disgusting if the Bills actually went after AP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 AP still hasn't learned how to pick up a blitz, and his route running and ability to catch are mediocre at best. He's still a good runner, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 It's going to be interesting to see how much AP has left in the tank. When he was in his prime, he sure was something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: At least it wasn't Gore..... He’s about to enter the ring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: My take is that it is hard to find OL who excel at mauling for the rushing attack AND finesse for pass blocking. Then you have to get all five working together and scheme to their strengths and the strengths of your offense. With Josh being as good as he is, they know it is better to have an OL that is better at pass blocking. That being said, we still have some weaknesses. I don't think Feliciano ever really got his full strength back after the pec injury. He was more of the mauler type to balance the guys like Morse and Dawkins who's strength was pass protection. So that left side doesn't have that push where Feliciano used to bowl people over to open up a rush lane. On the right side, Ford just never developed like they hoped. The Covid bout didn't help. That's a strength and endurance zapper and we don't know if his lungs are 100%. The Brown/Williams experiment is just beginning and they both had injuries. Also our WR and not the best blockers so CB's when they see run, can shed and pursue quicker to make sure an RB doesn't get past that second level. Neither of our RB's is quick enough to pop those runs. Daboll also likes to run into the teeth of a defense a lot. With the interior OL being our weakest point, this doesn't yield the results we desire. Supposedly we are a spread offense, so it would be nice if we could also develop ways to spread the run game. Which I think goes back to WR's who can't block well enough. Luckily, Josh is awesome and our pass game is good enough. I'd like to see improvements in play calling, the run game and the OL play so we can dictate what type of offense we want to run, especially in the playoffs when teams will scheme to stop our passing attack. Good post. Clearly we need a better offensive line for this offense to reach its full potential. But I also wonder about getting a run game coordinator. Chan Gailey was really good at generating a run attack with a poor offensive line. Likewise, Greg Roman is a run game genius. Brian Daboll is not. Is there a coach out there who excels at the X's and O's of the run game who can help Daboll craft a better rushing attack? We need better offensive linemen and a better run game scheme more than we need AP. Edited November 7, 2021 by hondo in seattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 (edited) Having him for the last half of the season would have been great, since he wouldn't have been beaten up and would be fresh to go. Edited November 7, 2021 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s about to enter the ring I was really hoping he was going to manage to stick around in the NFL until his son got here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s about to enter the ring I think you might need a scientific calculator to quantify the number of times you'd have to punch Frank Gore in the head before he noticed. I can see him looking like Joe Frazier in the ring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, Simon said: I think you might need a scientific calculator to quantify the number of times you'd have to punch Frank Gore in the head before he noticed. I can see him looking like Joe Frazier in the ring. Ya, no thank you on fighting Gore. You know that dude can take a punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said: Peterson is a complete POS. It's incomprehensible to me why low character guys like Josh Gordon, AP, etc. continue to get chances to play. Disgusting if the Bills actually went after AP. AP is definitely a dirtbag. How about this guy the media is covering for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 Need to really fix the OL before worrying about RBs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 The word “inquire” is starting to look suspect at this point. If we ask “Is *insert player’s name here* home?” then technically we inquired about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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