Bill from NYC Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 50 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: What does "street gutter character" mean to you? If you can't figure that out then you're either oblivious or intentionally ignoring it. I don't know, could it have meant John Gotti? Or one of the old "Westies" Irish gang? If anything, you are the one making racist assumptions and implications imo. If you can't figure out how then you are either oblivious to this or intentionally ignoring it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: If he gets out within the next 5 years I would say his career is not over. NFL is littered with child / women abusers, rapists, drug and alcohol abusers, etc. As sad as it is, I’m sure some team would give him a chance (Chiefs, Ravens, Browns). i wrote 10-20 and I agree if he gets out 5 in years he might still have a shot at the NFL, I think post Ray Rice backlash the NFL has changed in that regard. Good test case will be Deshaun Watson, I wouldnt be shocked if he never plays on the NFL again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyBatty is alive said: i wrote 10-20 and I agree if he gets out 5 in years he might still have a shot at the NFL, I think post Ray Rice backlash the NFL has changed in that regard. Good test case will be Deshaun Watson, I wouldnt be shocked if he never plays on the NFL again. Let’s hope ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/judge-rules-that-former-las-vegas-raiders-henry-ruggs-blood-alcohol-test-from-deadly-crash-allowed-as-evidence-204811319.html A judge ruled on Tuesday that blood alcohol tests will be allowed as evidence in the case against former Las Vegas Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs III, according to ESPN. Had this test been thrown out there is no dui. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/judge-rules-that-former-las-vegas-raiders-henry-ruggs-blood-alcohol-test-from-deadly-crash-allowed-as-evidence-204811319.html A judge ruled on Tuesday that blood alcohol tests will be allowed as evidence in the case against former Las Vegas Raiders wide receiver Henry Ruggs III, according to ESPN. Had this test been thrown out there is no dui. Why in the hell Wouldn't they be allowed?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 1:54 PM, T&C said: Why in the hell Wouldn't they be allowed?! Maybe read the original article yahoo butchered in posting? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34232294/judge-rules-blood-alcohol-test-results-allowed-evidence-case-former-las-vegas-raiders-receiver-henry-ruggs-iii-charged-fiery-crash-killed-woman-dog Quote Ruggs is charged with multiple felonies, including driving under the influence resulting in death and reckless driving. A police report said that Ruggs refused to take a field sobriety test on site. "There's obvious time constraints in applying for a search warrant for a blood draw," Justice of the Peace Ann Zimmerman said. "Under the totality of the circumstances, there is more than sufficient evidence for a finding of probable cause for the issuance of the search warrant in this case. "Nobody has mentioned so far that Mr. Ruggs was seriously injured in this accident and transported to the hospital, so he would have been unable to submit to field sobriety tests. Coupled with his refusal to answer questions, this does not result in a reward. ... Motion to suppress is denied." A lawyer for Ruggs, David Chesnoff, had argued there was no probable cause for the tests, which were taken about two hours after the pre-dawn crash. Authorities say Ruggs' blood alcohol content was 0.16 -- more than twice Nevada's legal limit. But Chesnoff said that officers on the scene knew they didn't have enough evidence for probable cause, that involvement in the fiery crash wasn't enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 1:54 PM, T&C said: Why in the hell Wouldn't they be allowed?! A blood draw should be mandatory when the person who caused the accident has to be taken to the hospital and can’t do a field sobriety test. Every state should have that law in place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 9:56 AM, RoyBatty is alive said: i wrote 10-20 and I agree if he gets out 5 in years he might still have a shot at the NFL, I think post Ray Rice backlash the NFL has changed in that regard. Good test case will be Deshaun Watson, I wouldnt be shocked if he never plays on the NFL again. 5 years with elite training, eating prison food, missing the incremental changes in technique and verbiages hed be a big project, with big distractions and a very short shelf life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 12:54 PM, T&C said: Why in the hell Wouldn't they be allowed?! Because they could have been faulty? Taken incorrectly, etc... I don't know much about this case. Not sure what kinda tests. If you know you're gonna fail... Always refuse... You're going to jail no matter what. Time is a friend before they get it LEGALLY against your will. Why give them evidence willfully? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Claude Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Do people not read beyond the headline? Rugg's attorneys argued that the police did not have probable cause to test him. As noted in the article, linked helpfully above by Limeaid, the argument got laughed out of court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Because they could have been faulty? Taken incorrectly, etc... I don't know much about this case. Not sure what kinda tests. If you know you're gonna fail... Always refuse... You're going to jail no matter what. Time is a friend before they get it LEGALLY against your will. Why give them evidence willfully? He didn't. He was unconscious. DWI lawyers always challenge the physical evidence of intoxication--that's the bulk of their business. But probable cause was never in doubt here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: He didn't. He was unconscious. DWI lawyers always challenge the physical evidence of intoxication--that's the bulk of their business. But probable cause was never in doubt here. Honestly, I don’t know the gap between punishments if he was drunk or soberly going 150 mph and killed someone. my gut says it can’t be they drastically different but you never know how local laws stack qualifiers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 6:48 AM, EasternOHBillsFan said: What does "street gutter character" mean to you? If you can't figure that out then you're either oblivious or intentionally ignoring it. On 6/16/2022 at 7:44 AM, Bill from NYC said: I don't know, could it have meant John Gotti? Or one of the old "Westies" Irish gang? If anything, you are the one making racist assumptions and implications imo. If you can't figure out how then you are either oblivious to this or intentionally ignoring it. If you don't know, I won't tell you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 9 hours ago, NoSaint said: 5 years with elite training, eating prison food, missing the incremental changes in technique and verbiages hed be a big project, with big distractions and a very short shelf life. I agree. I have zero sympathy for him, zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 3 hours ago, NoSaint said: Honestly, I don’t know the gap between punishments if he was drunk or soberly going 150 mph and killed someone. my gut says it can’t be they drastically different but you never know how local laws stack qualifiers From what I could see, in Nevada, reckless driving with death resulting is a Class B felony with 1 to 6 years. Ruggs is charged with4 felonies and is looking at 40 years. He won't be some team's project---except maybe the Mean Machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: From what I could see, in Nevada, reckless driving with death resulting is a Class B felony with 1 to 6 years. Ruggs is charged with4 felonies and is looking at 40 years. He won't be some team's project---except maybe the Mean Machine. Ruggs is finished as a NFL player. Also, to suggest there was no PC is laughable and ridiculous. Almost as bad as " the glove doesn't fit." Defense attorneys will try anything to get their client off. Sometimes the ***** sticks... Edited July 16, 2022 by newcam2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 9:44 AM, Bill from NYC said: I don't know, could it have meant John Gotti? Or one of the old "Westies" Irish gang? If anything, you are the one making racist assumptions and implications imo. If you can't figure out how then you are either oblivious to this or intentionally ignoring it. How many mobsters or gangs play NFL football? You playing stupid doesn't fly. It's a racist implication, plain and simple... that crap may play in PPP, but not here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 3 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: How many mobsters or gangs play NFL football? You playing stupid doesn't fly. It's a racist implication, plain and simple... that crap may play in PPP, but not here. Oh stop. In your quest to appear ever so enlightened on the internet, you made racist assumptions, placed black people in an inferior class, and came off as close minded. I was not the only one to recognize this, as it was ever so obvious. Blocking you will be a distinct pleasure and I humbly ask you to return the favor and block me. So long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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