TheFunPolice Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Deep down, and no B.S, just totally 100% completely frank, honest, and genuinely... I think they're pretty good, about as good as you can reasonably expect defenses to be nowadays with the rules what they are. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 The defense is very very good and is possibly a top 5 defense in the league. The defense is good as is. The interior Oline remains my only concern for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Tua, Brissett, Heinicke, Davis Mills, washed up Roethlisberger and flailing Mahomes (who has looked like absolute crap in about half of his starts this season). I think our defense is good, maybe very good, but I don't believe it's elite - which, based on our soft schedule, we won't be able to assess until the Tampa game and then the playoffs. Play who's on schedule Jets just beat Cincy and Tennessee a week prior to our L . Anything can happen. We're playing professional NFL teams every week. Heineke has looked good against a few defenses Mills too Ben too Mahomes too Maybe our D is just really elite? Which they are.. These easy teams have put up big numbers on many defenses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Defense is excellent but is susceptible to getting pushed around in the run game against physical OLs and struggles to get consistent pressure on QBs when facing premier OLs. Like most modern NFL defenses, they will give up points to the elite offenses. The Colts and Tampa games will be big tests. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Safeties are the best duo in the NFL. CBs are superb (Tre) or very good. And not only that, there is no confusion and they almost never a leave a guy wide open. They are very good against the run too. Milano is one of the best coverage LB and a damn good blizter. Edmunds and Klein (now that he is used well) are above average, hit and miss. Oliver has had some awesome moments. Star had good games. Rousseau and Epenasa made themselves seen a few times. But yeah overall that DL is the weak point, but they do get pressure, and are not trampled in the running game like in the last 10 years. Hopefully with the heavy rotation they are all fresh and non injured come the playoffs. Coaching and gameplan seems vey much on point this year, more than before. Top 10 defense but doesn't feel like Top3. But hey, if they prove it, yesssss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 11/1/2021 at 4:05 PM, Royale with Cheese said: So right now as it stands, the Bills are #1 in the NFL in total yards, points and turnovers (tied) on defense. Am I the only one who doesn't think they are as good as the stats show? I certainly think this is a good defense but I don't feel they're elite. Their numbers are elite but I'm not there yet with them. What about yous guys? They have the lowest Points allowed and the lowest yards per play allowed…what do people want? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 You just don't often see great defenses that can actually stifle the great offenses anymore. That's why last year's SB was so particularly shocking. What I can say about this Bills defense is that they make their opponents struggle to gain yardage and that wasn't true last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 58 minutes ago, TH3 said: They have the lowest Points allowed and the lowest yards per play allowed…what do people want? It's because we've played mostly poor teams and QB's thus far. When we have played remotely competent QB's we've lost against those teams. I'm not saying this defense is trash because they aren't but I think fans are in a for a rude awakening again come playoff time when you see similar performances like what happened against the Titans where we can't get stops or any pressure without blitzing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: It's because we've played mostly poor teams and QB's thus far. When we have played remotely competent QB's we've lost against those teams. I'm not saying this defense is trash because they aren't but I think fans are in a for a rude awakening again come playoff time when you see similar performances like what happened against the Titans where we can't get stops or any pressure without blitzing. Are you suggesting the defense was somehow to blame for the Steelers loss? Edited November 2, 2021 by GoBills808 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Are you suggesting the defense was somehow to blame for the Steelers loss? Not necessarily but we are 0-2 against teams currently with a winning record. We've beaten nobody of note (Chiefs included). Also if you look back on that game even with the miscues and blocked kick we couldn't get a stop and let the Steelers score the decisive points to put the game out of reach by 2 scores. But even if you want to write the Steelers game of as a fluke, we lost to the Titans primarily because this defense washed gashed by the Titans on 6 straight drives resulting in points going back to the 2nd quarter. There was essentially no pass rush against a QB who was the most sacked in the league at the time and far from elite. Again, I just think at the end of the day this defense isn't nearly as good as some folks believe if anything because of the weak schedule we've played thus far and will continue to pad stats on the rest of the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Not necessarily but we are 0-2 against teams currently with a winning record. We've beaten nobody of note (Chiefs included). Also if you look back on that game even with the miscues and blocked kick we couldn't get a stop and let the Steelers score the decisive points to put the game out of reach by 2 scores. But even if you want to write the Steelers game of as a fluke, we lost to the Titans primarily because this defense washed gashed by the Titans on 6 straight drives resulting in points going back to the 2nd quarter. There was essentially no pass rush against a QB who was the most sacked in the league at the time and far from elite. Again, I just think at the end of the day this defense isn't nearly as good as some folks believe if anything because of the weak schedule we've played thus far and will continue to pad stats on the rest of the way. They have been a top3 unit three out of the last 4 years playing all kinds of teams, good mediocre and bad, with largely the same core pieces. It’s a really, really good defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Is Taron Johnson, the future strong safety of the Bills because of being a tackling machine and can cover anything over the middle as good as anybody in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, TH3 said: They have the lowest Points allowed and the lowest yards per play allowed…what do people want? You really can’t stand when someone calla the defense good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) IIRC. From those long lost days at the D&C Forums @Mr. WEO Edited November 5, 2021 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) Overall they're flying around and creating more pressure and turnovers. Star is helping Ed. AJE & Groot are helping Jerry & Mario. Matt is earning his contract but I don't see 49 getting a 2nd contract. Tre & Taron have been solid but Levi still gets picked on. And we definitely have the #1 safety combo in the NFL. Edited November 5, 2021 by LABILLBACKER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor26 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Overall they're flying around and creating more pressure and turnovers. Star is helping Ed. AJE & Groot are helping Jerry & Mario. Matt is earning his contract but I don't see 49 getting a 2nd contract. Tre & Taron have been solid but Levi still gets picked on. And we definitely have the #1 safety combo in the NFL. I don’t have the numbers on him, but Levi looks to be having a solid year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I think I love our DL rotation. I think our playoffs and superbowl chances go down against pocket quarterbacks. I dont worry about our Run defense at all. We have good edge rush when we need it. Especially with front 4. But it seems like we get no pressure up the middle. So against a pocket QB like Brady or Aaron Rodgers, who just nimbly step up into the middle of the pocket as the edge DL flies past, we are in troube rushing 4 because somebody eventually gets open. Against 'move' QBs we do better because of youth and rotation, and 'move' QBs allow us to focus only on the move half of the field for coverage focus on passing downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 This is clearly an elite defense. How is that not obvious? On 11/2/2021 at 3:08 PM, Jauronimo said: Defense is excellent but is susceptible to getting pushed around in the run game against physical OLs and struggles to get consistent pressure on QBs when facing premier OLs. Like most modern NFL defenses, they will give up points to the elite offenses. The Colts and Tampa games will be big tests. The Bills are playing very well against the run, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Motor26 said: I don’t have the numbers on him, but Levi looks to be having a solid year. He is. He had a mistake or two vs the Steelers but since then he has played well. Yes Miami completed a couple of balls on him last week but he played his coverage well on those assignments and the receivers made tough catches. That happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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