SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Stats are useless someone mentioned that Tua had better stats than Josh did Who was better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Because of injury. And yet I was crazy to have Murray ahead of Allen before I knew he was injured... LOL right the fact that he threw 2ints in a loss vs the Packers has nothing to do with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Think Josh will have to have big games against the Bucs and Pats on MNF to be able to win this race - the schedule is just bad, and I think voters are going to count that against him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Because of injury. And yet I was crazy to have Murray ahead of Allen before I knew he was injured... LOL Then explain to me how Allen jumps up 3 spots after Murray gets injured? You said he wasn't in the top 3 lol and now he's #1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Not sure how he's ahead of Brady and Stafford. Brady has 678 more yards and 9 more passing TD's than Allen, and yes more picks. Stafford's numbers are way better as well. I'm not a gambler so no idea how vegas figures such things. So you're wrong then. You said he's not in the top 3 and he's currently #1....so you're wrong. It doesn't matter if you don't like the current odds....you're still wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I can have an opinion different than Vegas, my goodness you're upset... Yes you certainly can. But opinions based on bad comprehension get criticized....just fyi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said: Stats are useless someone mentioned that Tua had better stats than Josh did Who was better? Explain how Tua had better stats than Josh. Edited November 1, 2021 by Scott7975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Just now, Gene1973 said: And what are you going to do about it exactly, B word on internet forums? Like I said, not a gambler, but I think the way it works is sports books want some ppl to disagree and bet against the odds. I can't be the only one disagreeing with Vegas... Chill out man, think about your blood pressure. This is your response when I say your opinion is based on bad comprehension? "What are you doing to do about it?" Don't talk about my blood pressure, my blood pressure is the Josh Allen of blood pressures....it's excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Explain how Tua had better stats than Josh. He threw more picks than Allen 🤣 1 > 0 The only metric that he had better "Stats" in is ESPN QBR which has proven time and time again that it's worthless. Edited November 1, 2021 by The Wiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: He threw more picks than Allen 🤣 1 > 0 The only metric that he had better "Stats" in is ESPN QBR which has proven time and time again that it's worthless. Well, his "yards per completion" were better. It's an underrated stat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: IMO the award is stats based, when Allen has the most yards and TD passes + at least tied for most wins, I'll consider him #1 in the MVP race. We all know you won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: We all know you won't. Yeah but we'll find out what new arbitrary thing is preventing him from getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Yeah but we'll find out what new arbitrary thing is preventing him from getting it. Week 1 Steelers game ruined it for Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 JA17 gonna have some prime matchups to bring his stats up to the leaders…plenty of time… but as of today… Matthew Stafford is really head and shoulders in front of the others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Diggs telling JA he's not in MVP consideration: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 You guys seem to be really underrating Allen's running ability as a factor for MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Probably because he plays QB and not RB. That's silly. It is an added dimension to his game that makes him a bigger threat. More valuable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Defense had turnerovers, constant pressure and gave up 11 points! But somehow they are a negative for this team??🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Defense had turnerovers, constant pressure and gave up 11 points! But somehow they are a negative for this team??🙄 Haha yea I’m not sure how much more they could’ve done that game…it is frustrating though when you know tua is gonna throw a slant or a quick out with little to no velocity on every 3rd down and they still pick it up lol so a lot of it is just fans being frustrated Edited November 1, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gene1973 said: Not sure how he's ahead of Brady and Stafford. Brady has 678 more yards and 9 more passing TD's than Allen, and yes more picks. Stafford's numbers are way better as well. I'm not a gambler so no idea how vegas figures such things. I’m back to say maybe (hopefully) it’s not a stats only award after the recent news 😂 I don’t want to say stafford is boring to watch but they very methodically move the ball down the field in a way where you feel like the backup qb could come in and still be successful (cough Jared Goff went to the super bowl running this offense cough) so yea there’s definitely times where the guy that’s number 1 in stats is definitely the most valuable but it doesn’t always have to be the case. When you watch a bills game it’s just the josh Allen show all game as of late. I don’t think any other qb could do what he does for this team. It’s crazy hes literally inches short from being wayyyy ahead of anyone else. If he hurdled an extra couple inches and we ended up beating the titans no one else is even close to him imo. It really is a game of inches lol Edited November 1, 2021 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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