balln Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 more DPI for CLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Yeah to a degree I agree with this, but let's not forget this was the same team that needed a 4th and 19 from deep in their own territory and an NFL record FG as time ran out to beat the Lions. Also had some very close games where they could easily have 3 losses right now. Good for them they are 5-1, but until Jackson can show he can overcome a McDermott D I am not overly concerned. Jackson is exceptional at what he does...but when teams force him to do what he isn't comfortable with he struggles. I still view him as limited in the passing game. He is still limited in the passing game (although not as limited as I think some of the perception is) and I also don't think they would beat the Bills. It is matchup league and I think that matchup favours the Bills (I also think the Bills have a Quarterback advantage and a - smaller - overall roster advantage). But the Ravens are a brilliantly run organisation from the top down. They are the only AFC team I'd out on a par with the Bills in that regard. That was my point. Edited October 17, 2021 by GunnerBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Gambit said: What a tool. Still only has 1 ring tho. I have also been on Rodgers case for being a drama queen, but in this he is correct and there was nothing wrong with his celebrations after the game sealing run for TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Vikings are masters at finding ways to lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 The "go for it on 4th down" analytics has gone way too far. Coaches are gifting great field position for no reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Thats a few really bad throws for Murray already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, HappyDays said: The "go for it on 4th down" analytics has gone way too far. Coaches are gifting great field position for no reason. Yeah remember the old days when it'd have to be the last possession of the game or 4th and inches for coaches to go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: The "go for it on 4th down" analytics has gone way too far. Coaches are gifting great field position for no reason. McCarthy has very little in-game acumen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddick Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, Bermuda Triangle said: Thats a few really bad throws for Murray already I think I would enjoy watching him play but the hype just pisses me off. Same with Lamar. Every time they run for a 3 yard gain the announcers tell us what a miracle it was. Maybe other fans feel that way when Josh is playing, you don't notice it as much when it's your own guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I mean really that's a penalty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: Analytics doesn't account for a lot of things. That's why I hate it sometimes. I don't think it accounts for momentum, which is huge in a football game. My biggest problem with the analytics is good offenses go for more 4th downs than bad offenses, right? Because they believe in their ability to convert. So the 4th down conversion rates that then get baked into the modelling are based generally on what decent offenses do. I know there are models that then try and adjust for equitable 3rd down conversions to allow for that but that is only a proxy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 more penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I mean, I know from watching BB that he's going to stack the line against the run every time on 3rd & 4th and short. McCarthy didn't know that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I'm struggling to understand the Browns' line of thinking with this gameplan. They are 1st in the league in every rushing category, and the Cardinals are very bad at stopping the run. So the Browns decide to.....come out in empty sets and call a pass-heavy offensive gameplan? Doesn't make any sense to me. Yes, I know that Chubb is out with an injury. I don't care. Kareem Hunt is more than capable. Dance with what brung ya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 At some point they're going to be allowed to play football right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Cheffers might have the worst crew in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delirious Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I know I should be rooting for the Cardinals but screw them. Phantom roughing the passer BS. Go Lake Erie Bros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 If Denver wins, KC is still in last place in the AFC West. Go Broncos! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: McCarthy has very little in-game acumen McCarthy, Stefanski, and Staley all made the same mistake so far today. There's a fine line between being aggressive and being stupid. Most games are decided by less than 7 points and some of these coaches are trying to win the game in the 1st half 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: My biggest problem with the analytics is good offenses go for more 4th downs than bad offenses, right? Because they believe in their ability to convert. So the 4th down conversion rates that then get baked into the modelling are based generally on what decent offenses do. I know there are models that then try and adjust for equitable 3rd down conversions to allow for that but that is only a proxy. i think its more down and distance. and the offense ypp vs def ypp. shouldnt be on historical rates of conversion for your above reasoning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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