Beast Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chaos said: Vince Lombardi sucked without an HOF QB Bill Walsh sucked without an HOF QB Bill Cowher sucked without an HOF QB Both John Gruden and Joe Gibbs win super bowls without HOF QBs. Based on TBD statistical theories, the key is find a coach whose initials are JG So, can we agree that Joe Gibbs is 10 times the HC that Belichick ever thought of being? He did it three times. Edited September 26, 2021 by Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Beast said: If the Bills were searching for a head coach, and you took Belichick's time without Brady into consideration, would you be clamoring for him to be hired as our head coach? I'm not sure I'd hire someone who mysteriously vanished for two ***** decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: I'm not sure I'd hire someone who mysteriously vanished for two ***** decades. I think you know exactly what I am speaking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 So if you and your NFL team shipwreck on a desert island, you want the Navy to parachute Wrecks instead of Belichick? 🤔 * I said 'desert', Rob. Not 'dessert'. 🤨 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: So if you and your NFL team shipwreck on a desert island, you want the Navy to parachute Wrecks instead of Belichick? 🤔 * I said 'desert', Rob. Not 'dessert'. 🤨 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Beast said: Huh? Merely a 'thought experiment'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 The hyperbole is silly. He may be overrated, sure, but fraud?...no sir.... Honestly i feel a huge problem is the whole disciplinarian team first style is just not a fit for 2021. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chaos said: Vince Lombardi sucked without an HOF QB Bill Walsh sucked without an HOF QB Bill Cowher sucked without an HOF QB Only John Gruden and Joe Gibbs will super bowls without HOF QBs. Based on TBD statistical theories, the key is find a coach whose initials are JG You forgot Bill Parcells, I don't think Simms is getting in. Also, I don't give Gibbs or Gruden additional credit based on this. Gruden was an offensive coach that happened to get one of the best defenses of all time and the Redskins just had an absolutely dominate squad in the 80's an early 90's. I agree with the poster that said BB, good coach, bad GM. He has been a very bad GM. He does a good job acquiring picks, but so many misses and very poor FA activity/trades. The conclusion of Brady's career was also dreadful in the way it was handled . Super Bowl windows still existed in New England if they would have gotten him more talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Beast said: I think you know exactly what I am speaking of. I think you maybe overly focusing on 16% of his HC career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said: The hyperbole is silly. He may be overrated, sure, but fraud?...no sir.... Honestly i feel a huge problem is the whole disciplinarian team first style is just not a fit for 2021. Exactly, I think Belichick might be the GOAT, but times change. He had his “guys” for so long it becomes hard to replace not just the player, but also the type of people he wants. Everything has an expiration date, and maybe time is running out on BB as a great coach. It’s like a great musician, just because they haven’t had a hit in three decades, doesn’t mean they still can’t be the greatest. Time just runs out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 50 minutes ago, Beast said: 62-74 record without Brady as his starting QB. The man is not what people say he is. I've stated this numerous times but people can't get off his sack. He rode on Brady for 20 years 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, SirAndrew said: Exactly, I think Belichick might be the GOAT, but times change. He had his “guys” for so long it becomes hard to replace not just the player, but also the type of people he wants. Everything has an expiration date, and maybe time is running out on BB as a great coach. It’s like a great musician, just because they haven’t had a hit in three decades, doesn’t mean they still can’t be the greatest. Time just runs out. You can also say the defensive changes and rules changes to the game have made the old Parcells play style obsolete and impossible to replicate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I think you maybe overly focusing on 16% of his HC career. And I think you may be focusing on Tom Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I've watched a lot of the Pats without Brady. They make all of the same mistakes bad teams make (and that we made for 20 years). Fumbles to lose games, broken coverages, blocked punts, bad playcalling. BB was able to cover for a lot of things w/ Brady - especially on the GM side, where players took pay cuts to play w/ the GOAT, and Brady took pay cuts to clear cap space. Our long national nightmare is over. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Beast said: And I think you may be focusing on Tom Brady. and you want to ignore 84% of the man's career and pretend that isn't significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 All the credit they got about bringing in Henry and Smith to recreate some offense they had over a decade ago and never a mention about how that 2 TE system worked because of #12. The new Gronk and Hernandez thru 3 games have a total of 14 catches for 143 yards and 0 touchdowns. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Beast said: If the Bills were searching for a head coach, and you took Belichick's time without Brady into consideration, would you be clamoring for him to be hired as our head coach? Well, the FO couldn't sign ole Rex fast enough at one point, so........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Giants Defensive Coordinator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sweats said: Well, the FO couldn't sign ole Rex fast enough at one point, so........... You have a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Beast said: 62-74 record without Brady as his starting QB. The man is not what people say he is. Had no idea, thanks for info-pretty big sample size. I'm sure it eats at him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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