JaCrispy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Just now, Tiberius said: There was no good way of getting out. He should just get a star The good way would have been to get the civilians out first, while the military was still there...then have the military start loading up all their equipment on their way out...that way you don’t arm the Taliban...👍 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: The good way would have been to get the civilians out first, while the military was still there...then have the military start loading up all their equipment on their way out...that way you don’t arm the Taliban...👍 And then try not to murder 13 brave United States Marines and incinerate 10 innocent people trying to distract from the crises you've created due to your "America Last" agenda. What A Mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: The good way would have been to get the civilians out first, while the military was still there...then have the military start loading up all their equipment on their way out...that way you don’t arm the Taliban...👍 Spreading the word we were leaving? The flow of civilians would be super huge and many would of been left behind anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, T master said: WOW this is becoming scary i agree with you again that we should have gotten out ! That being said dammit the dude sure did pull a ***** on how he got the people out and lost 13 Marines in doing so which showed once again lack of fore thought or plan prior to making the move even i know that you get the people out first with the military to be on guard while doing so . By pulling the military first just shows just how inept a leader that he is and if those below him made that call then it's still on him because he should have went over it with them before it went down to assure it was going to be executed correctly so he didn't look stupid but that didn't happen . No more Marines dying there now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Spreading the word we were leaving? The flow of civilians would be super huge and many would of been left behind anyway Meh...now it just sounds like you’re making excuses just because you support Biden...and I get it...but nobody’s perfect, and every president makes mistakes... There’s no shame in admitting when a president messes up, regardless of your political leanings...in fact, it makes you a more credible person to dialogue with- because it illustrates you’re out for truth, and not just power...👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Yeah, they should’ve pulled out instantaneously. It would’ve been perfect and no one would’ve ever suspected a thing. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Meh...now it just sounds like you’re making excuses just because you support Biden...and I get it...but nobody’s perfect, and every president makes mistakes... There’s no shame in admitting when a president messes up, regardless of your political leanings...in fact, it makes you a more credible person to dialogue with- because it illustrates you’re out for truth, and not just power...👍 I just don't see how you pull something like that off without it getting messy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I just don't see how you pull something like that off without it getting messy Not sure I follow what you’re specifically referring to...can you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, JaCrispy said: Not sure I follow what you’re specifically referring to...can you elaborate? Pulling out of a foreign country. Retreating under fire, basically. No way that was going to "clean" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Pulling out of a foreign country. Retreating under fire, basically. No way that was going to "clean" Ok, so you’re basically saying (and correct me if I’m wrong) that no matter what we did it would have been messy? To some extent, you may be correct...there is just no way to ever know for certain if it would have been better, as bad, or worse , if another strategy was attempted... That being said, the administration still made key decisions that, at the very least, still seem ill advised...Case in point, the tens of billions of dollars of military weapons, ammunition, and vehicles just gifted to our 20 year adversary, while our citizens and allies were still in country... As a result, the Biden administration was roundly criticized by our allies and mainstream media for, not just his handling of the situation, but negotiating with the Taliban without even consulting his allies, or even making them aware of what was going on- stuff that just didn’t make common sense to anyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 We are now living in an upside down world created by liberals and reinforced / promoted by 98% of the “ media”. Good is bad, bad deserves empathy or sympathy, actual justice is being replaced by “ social justice”. Reality is whatever you perceive it to be , and gender is merely a suggestion. Schools are designed to create liberals rather than critical thinkers. Anyone who disagrees with this insanity will be socially ostracized by media / social media, cancelled etc. Social collapse isn’t too far off if we don’t fight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: We are now living in an upside down world created by liberals and reinforced / promoted by 98% of the “ media”. Good is bad, bad deserves empathy or sympathy, actual justice is being replaced by “ social justice”. Reality is whatever you perceive it to be , and gender is merely a suggestion. Schools are designed to create liberals rather than critical thinkers. Anyone who disagrees with this insanity will be socially ostracized by media / social media, cancelled etc. Social collapse isn’t too far off if we don’t fight back. What you describe is literally the definition of “Post Modernism”, which has the fundamental belief that there is no truth... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: The good way would have been to get the civilians out first, while the military was still there...then have the military start loading up all their equipment on their way out...that way you don’t arm the Taliban...👍 How can anyone disagree with this? It’s basic common sense. 41 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Pulling out of a foreign country. Retreating under fire, basically. No way that was going to "clean" Who was under fire before the troops were pulled out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: How can anyone disagree with this? It’s basic common sense. Who was under fire before the troops were pulled out? Our troops in Afganistan. How many died there over the decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Our troops in Afganistan. How many died there over the decades? I’m talking about the last few years before the pullout. How many soldiers died the last two years? We had this country under control with just a couple thousand troops, until slow joe fubared the exit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said: I’m talking about the last few years before the pullout. How many soldiers died the last two years? We had this country under control with just a couple thousand troops, until slow joe fubared the exit. Oh no, we had pulled way back and were just holding onto some points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: No more Marines dying there now 🙌🙌 Thank god but it could have went a lot better and quite possible no American lives lost if there would have been a well thought through plan put in place which is where Joe does not in any way over achieve . Edited September 27, 2021 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 10 hours ago, Tiberius said: Oh no, we had pulled way back and were just holding onto some points. You have a revisionist view of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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