purple haze Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Virgil said: I don’t care how many teams do it. This is the definition of greed It’s pro sports. It’s business. Some might be priced out of season tickets, unfortunately. This is the main reason PSE proposed the stadium type/location that they did. To keep costs as low as possible while sill raising them. Put a roof on that added cost will show up in the PSL rates and ticket/parking costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I'm sorry but from a selfish standpoint this is good news for me. I was very worried since season tickets sold out that I may be on the outside looking in for years to come. Instead it's sounding like I get a fresh shot at it and can even swing my weight around and secure some great seats. But I know where I came from and definitely feel for those who now can't afford to keep their seats. It sucks but it's evolution and even tho I wouldn't like it if it cost me my seats, I'd understand it. If everyone stadium built since 2009 has done this, why the hell would anyone here reasonable expect the Bills not to. We have been spoiled with THE cheapest tickets in the league for years. We can't want a great team and expect to keep that going. Greatness comes with a price...for the players, coaches and the fans alike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, StHustle said: I'm sorry but from a selfish standpoint this is good news for me. I was very worried since season tickets sold out that I may be on the outside looking in for years to come. Instead it's sounding like I get a fresh shot at it and can even swing my weight around and secure some great seats. But I know where I came from and definitely feel for those who now can't afford to keep their seats. It sucks but it's evolution and even tho I wouldn't like it if it cost me my seats, I'd understand it. If everyone stadium built since 2009 has done this, why the hell would anyone here reasonable expect the Bills not to. We have been spoiled with THE cheapest tickets in the league for years. We can't want a great team and expect to keep that going. Greatness comes with a price...for the players, coaches and the fans alike. Agreed on all points. My brother and I now are likely to take the plunge and get season tickets in the new place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 13 hours ago, WhoTom said: We have rich owners ... and they want to stay rich. don't think they're in any danger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 18 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Is anyone surprised by this? At least it's only a one-time charge and transferable. 18 hours ago, Southtown Tommy said: A PSL is a one-time charge, right? If so, it's reasonable based on ~$1,000 for the least expensive license. Price of doing business and having an NFL team in your backyard. Exactly. Not surprising, and Bills tickets will likely still be cheaper than elsewhere in the league. PSL's are a weird concept in general (paying for the right to buy a ticket), but if I recall, the Rams put a decent spin on their's that made them actually semi-valuable. I cannot remember for the life of me what that was, and it could be it's the exact opposite (maybe it was way worse than your usual PSL's), but I thought it was an improvement. Either way, can't be bothered to Google it right now. I'm on my last hour & a half at work & feeling burnt out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 5 hours ago, StHustle said: I'm sorry but from a selfish standpoint this is good news for me. I was very worried since season tickets sold out that I may be on the outside looking in for years to come. Instead it's sounding like I get a fresh shot at it and can even swing my weight around and secure some great seats. But I know where I came from and definitely feel for those who now can't afford to keep their seats. It sucks but it's evolution and even tho I wouldn't like it if it cost me my seats, I'd understand it. If everyone stadium built since 2009 has done this, why the hell would anyone here reasonable expect the Bills not to. We have been spoiled with THE cheapest tickets in the league for years. We can't want a great team and expect to keep that going. Greatness comes with a price...for the players, coaches and the fans alike. Life is about choices. If you know that your seat/s will require a PSL and you want to keep it /them, start saving now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 hours ago, nucci said: don't think they're in any danger You'll get no argument from me on that, but that's how the uberwealthy operate. Money is power, so they pull the strings and they get the breaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, StHustle said: I'm sorry but from a selfish standpoint this is good news for me. I was very worried since season tickets sold out that I may be on the outside looking in for years to come. Instead it's sounding like I get a fresh shot at it and can even swing my weight around and secure some great seats. But I know where I came from and definitely feel for those who now can't afford to keep their seats. It sucks but it's evolution and even tho I wouldn't like it if it cost me my seats, I'd understand it. If everyone stadium built since 2009 has done this, why the hell would anyone here reasonable expect the Bills not to. We have been spoiled with THE cheapest tickets in the league for years. We can't want a great team and expect to keep that going. Greatness comes with a price...for the players, coaches and the fans alike. Not a very meaningful boast. There are 6 other teams within 10 bucks of the average Bills ticket. For another $25 or less, you can get a seat for either LA in their gleaming new stadium---or a Cowboys game at Jerry World. The true price outliers are at the top, not the bottom. And a huge chunk of the secondary market will still be STH's who want to make money hawking their tickets even after they have to pay PSL. Edited September 25, 2021 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXBILLSFAN Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 11 hours ago, BaaadThingsMan said: I hate this. The Bills and NFL will be making a ton more money with a new stadium. Pegulas net worth and Forbes evaluation of the team will likely go way up as well. It's greedy. ***** PSLs The NFL is not a non-profit organization. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I'll be watching at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 The money from the sale of PSLs should be counted toward the percentage paid by the people (taxpayers, ticket buyers) and not the owners. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 12:55 PM, Virgil said: I don’t care how many teams do it. This is the definition of greed It's Capitalism, it can look like greed sometimes and there are lines. Not sure this crosses that line. Its supply and demand. There will be people willing to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, mattynh said: It's Capitalism, it can look like greed sometimes and there are lines. Not sure this crosses that line. Its supply and demand. There will be people willing to pay. Exactly. The Bills are just now catching up to the rest of the NFL, and that’s just how it is. Nobody needs to attend a football game, so it’s hardly the definition of greed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 12:08 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Why? It's very likely that PSL's can be spread over a few seasons. So the impact will be blunted. It will be an extra bump of $10-20 per ticket. Personally I've been expecting this. But they better make this stadium worth it. If what you’re saying is correct, then it certainly would have been better for them to avoid the buzzword of “PSL” at all. Simply raise the price of tickets $10-$20 and let that be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Einstein said: If what you’re saying is correct, then it certainly would have been better for them to avoid the buzzword of “PSL” at all. Simply raise the price of tickets $10-$20 and let that be that. It has more to do on how the gameday tickets and PSLs are divided by the owners. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Einstein said: If what you’re saying is correct, then it certainly would have been better for them to avoid the buzzword of “PSL” at all. Simply raise the price of tickets $10-$20 and let that be that. They'll do both, raising 100-200 million with the PSLs, and then a similar amount each year which will pay for their portion of the stadium (and then some.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 If this is the help support paying for the stadium, does that mean the PSL goes away after it’s built and tickets become available again? 😛. If you’re going to feed me BS, don’t tell me it’s candy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 You're better off buying a nice tv and a comfy recliner to watch Bills games because at the end of the day you'll actually own those. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 38 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: You're better off buying a nice tv and a comfy recliner to watch Bills games because at the end of the day you'll actually own those. Unless you enjoy going to the games in person (and all that experience includes ) more than watching on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: It has more to do on how the gameday tickets and PSLs are divided by the owners. Ahh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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