Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gisele said: CLASSIC 30 years ago a 'hack' was a person of dubious skills in their area of supposed expertise. 15 years ago, a 'hack' was what a student did to the school's computer system to alter their grades. Nowadays, a 'hack' is a shortcut to fixing a problem, or improving a process. Anyone else confused? 🤔 44 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: 4th and 16 from our 1? Might as well go for it 🤷♂️ So Tyrod passes for 11. Edited September 21, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 hours ago, LeGOATski said: I think every single one of us noticed it when Pittsburgh blocked it. Troubling that the block didn't seem to change his delivery. No sense of urgency. When 4 guys only block 3, that untouched blocker will usually block the punt no matter who ya got back there punting. 2 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said: Absolutely. Never got why we let Bojo go. Haack is absolutely terrible. Should have been cut already. Bring in someone off the street. I’ll sacrifice a few yards to ensure it doesn’t get blocked. Ironic given the username. "Someone off the street" is just not a guaranteed improvement, or why do you think we wouldn't have, already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkLessWagMore Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 How does this get blocked? He is glacially slow on every punt. Disappointed with this signing for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Back2Buff said: It's actually not slow at all. What you are noticing, is a guy that gets more consistent hang time. Haack is the way more consistent punter it terms of hang times. He is slower. Bojo is a "2 step punter" and Haack is a "3 step punter". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: That's one ugly mother ***** It may be homely...but it was somebody's baby, once. 😢 "Too many edits to thread title. Repeat fourth down. New England Patriots awarded a conditional draft pick." TWEET Edited September 21, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, BarkLessWagMore said: How does this get blocked? He is glacially slow on every punt. Disappointed with this signing for sure. This has already been discussed with far more than a single still shot as Bojo is starting his steps, before the guy breaks through (note that he is still 13 yards behind the LOS here and has not started his steps yet). Go here for schematic and text description of what the "fail" in the blocking scheme was. Steve Tasker said that Haack should have been 15 yards back, but I've been stopping film and looking at the yards and I think it's SOP across the league to shorten the distance down near the endzone - seemed to be 13 when kicking from inside the teams own 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ski Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, letsgoteam said: I will agree with this too. I dont know if Haack is the answer or if they should find someone else, but Bojo was awful at holding. Bojo's bad holds go back to his time with Stephen Hauchska(spelling is wrong, I'm sorry). he needs to start walking as the ball is snapped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saundena Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) Maybe I'm still traumatized from the Pittsburg game, but this guy Haak scares me. Bring back Bojorquez; I don't know why we got rid of him. The few times we called upon him to punt last year, he was excellent! Edited September 21, 2021 by saundena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 This guy is absolutely to slow. He needs to go now because another punt is going to get blocked. He’s way, way to slow to get the punt off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Just now, Back2Buff said: It's actually not slow at all. What you are noticing, is a guy that gets more consistent hang time. Haack is the way more consistent punter it terms of hang times. If by hang time you mean he's spending a lot of time hanging around back there before he punts the ball, then I 100% agree. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He is slower. Bojo is a "2 step punter" and Haack is a "3 step punter". they are both 4 step punters. Kicking on 4th foot forward. 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This has already been discussed with far more than a single still shot as Bojo is starting his steps, before the guy breaks through (note that he is still 13 yards behind the LOS here and has not started his steps yet). Go here for schematic and text description of what the "fail" in the blocking scheme was. Steve Tasker said that Haack should have been 15 yards back, but I've been stopping film and looking at the yards and I think it's SOP across the league to shorten the distance down near the endzone - seemed to be 13 when kicking from inside the teams own 25. in that still Hauck has already taken one step. He and Bojo both take 4 steps. Kicking on 4th foot forward. Hauck is just much much slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He is slower. Bojo is a "2 step punter" and Haack is a "3 step punter". I call it 4 steps. His first step is like a 2 step shuffle. Then two proper steps. Ugly. I will be honest I know it is a wild overreaction but I want him gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 the punting game is a place where we could see the next evolution... Imagine a punter who could take the snap and start running, then either pass, keep running past the line of scrimmage, or punt while on the run with accuracy.... That would be a PIA to defend 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, cba fan said: they are both 4 step punters. Kicking on 4th foot forward. in that still Hauck has already taken one step. He and Bojo both take 4 steps. Kicking on 4th foot forward. Hauck is just much much slower. I can't find it at the moment, but I saw an analysis where someone compared their motion and concluded Haack (not Hauck) takes an extra step. Either way, my point stands that that still shot doesn't show a thing about how the punt got blocked. The punter still has several steps to take, and the question is still unresolved as to whether the blockers and personal protector will pick everyone up. 8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I call it 4 steps. His first step is like a 2 step shuffle. Then two proper steps. Ugly. I will be honest I know it is a wild overreaction but I want him gone. I want a pony. Neither of us is getting what we want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: the punting game is a place where we could see the next evolution... Imagine a punter who could take the snap and start running, then either pass, keep running past the line of scrimmage, or punt while on the run with accuracy.... That would be a PIA to defend Maybe, but it will slow down everyone along the line because if he passes - the lineman cannot go downfield. My guess is this evolution leads to more penalties on the offense and more kicks that get returned because of a lack of coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I want a pony. Neither of us is getting what we want. I can source you a pony..... I've got Ed Oliver's number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Back2Buff said: It's actually not slow at all. What you are noticing, is a guy that gets more consistent hang time. Haack is the way more consistent punter it terms of hang times. I am really confused how you got delivery time and hang time mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: Maybe, but it will slow down everyone along the line because if he passes - the lineman cannot go downfield. My guess is this evolution leads to more penalties on the offense and more kicks that get returned because of a lack of coverage. True... I guess it would be like an option punt. Punt/Pass or punt/run. Then again, you're right that there's probably a good reason this hasn't been tried by some sleep deprived special teams coach who spent too many hours at the facility! LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I mentioned it after the second pre-season game when I first noticed it. He takes way too long. Watch him....he takes 3 full steps. Bojo finally has a good season and we let him walk? If Haack gets one more kick blocked he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, BarkLessWagMore said: How does this get blocked? He is glacially slow on every punt. Disappointed with this signing for sure. He is slow but that’s only 7 yard sprint for the guy who blocked it…he came almost untouched. I think most punters on this case would have had theirs blocked too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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