Dablitzkrieg Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Tim is drunk all of the time. Why would anyone take anything he says serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, london_bills said: I feel like the o line coach will be the first person under fire if it continues as was Sunday They will be better. Not every team has a top notch Dline like Steelers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Give everyone until mid season at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 The point he makes is that the Bills O has been, frankly, terrible over the last 3 games. 4 TDs in 3 games? I dont see why anyone is making excuses for Daboll at this point, and maybe McD should take over some of the play calling, at least if Daboll cant get his act together, like immediately. Things I hope McD said to dogballs this week: No more planned QB runs. We just paid that guy a ton of dough, let's not get him killed in the hope of gaining 3 yards. We have RBs that can do that. No more slow developing plays. I dont know if it's the play calling, or Josh Allen, but hanging onto the ball forever behind a pedestrian at best OL isn't going to work out. Hey, maybe let's mix it up and throw a few runs in there! And not with the QB! Say, maybe something designed to check an aggressive front 4? If the D is dropping 7 guys into coverage each play, maybe let's see what we can do underneath. Here's a playbook from the Bills glory era, i want you to pay particular attention to how JK used TT out of the backfield, and maybe some curl routes too. You don't have to swing for the fences on every play! A long time consuming drive might be just what the doctor ordered! Anyway you get the idea. 3 of our next 4 opponents have good Ds with strong front 4s. Is Doublestuff going to game plan for our opponents, or for his dream playbook so he can beat his kid at Madden? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 My only concern is... Could the text in the original post be any bigger??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Wonder what effect Dorsey as passing game Co ordinator had and will have moving forward.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 38 minutes ago, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said: Sounds like Tim is really slipping into Jerry’s shoes here. Shoes?!? Slipping into dementia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, Gugny said: Daboll is an OC with a top 5 QB. So much of an OC that Josh wants to call the plays lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Yeah, I read that article. Let's hope McDermott has a bit more faith in Daboll than Tim Graham does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 If your QB is begging to call plays, that’s a big red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Honestly at this point, I’m 100% ok with Josh calling all the plays. Then we know where the blame lies. Kelly and Manning did it. The greats usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Different circumstances than what happened with Frazier. McDermott didn’t give play calling duties to one of Frazier’s assistant coaches. He took them over himself as a head coach with extensive experience as a DC. and he did it in game (iirc). I believe he said that he just felt he had a really good feel for what the opposing offense was doing and that’s why he took over. It’s one thing for the head coach with experience on that side of the ball to take over play calling. What Tim Graham is suggesting is much different and much more controversial IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Hopefully Kelly planted a seed in Josh’s ear giving him suggestions about calling his own plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I don't know how we can even really evaluate the playcalling when the offensive line play was so incredibly bad. It was one of the worst showings of an O-Line I've ever seen, and I don't think that's an exaggeration. I will agree that the personnel choice play to play was suspect. We should have probably been bringing in an extra blocker or RB/TE blockers, but with all the execution issues (even the WRs were dropping passes that were hitting them in the hands, didn't see that much last year) I don't feel confident proclaiming that it was definitely the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 What is the harm. McDermott should let Josh call his own game against the Dolphins. It’s early in the season against a team he has dominated all throughout his career. Perfect time to experiment. 1 minute ago, Bruffalo said: I don't know how we can even really evaluate the playcalling when the offensive line play was so incredibly bad. It was one of the worst showings of an O-Line I've ever seen, and I don't think that's an exaggeration. I will agree that the personnel choice play to play was suspect. We should have probably been bringing in an extra blocker or RB/TE blockers, but with all the execution issues (even the WRs were dropping passes that were hitting them in the hands, didn't see that much last year) I don't feel confident proclaiming that it was definitely the issue. This is such a scapegoat argument. Ben was working behind a completely new offensive line and with a rookie. There are ways of masking a meh offensive line. No excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: What is the harm. McDermott should let Josh call his own game against the Dolphins. It’s early in the season against a team he has dominated all throughout his career. Perfect time to experiment. This is such a scapegoat argument. Ben was working behind a completely new offensive line and with a rookie. There are ways of masking a meh offensive line. No excuses. What should we have done to mask the offensive line on Sunday that we didn't do? You seem really confident that you have the answer here. EDIT: And I want to point out that they weren't "meh". They were awful. This was the worst game for the O-Line since Allen's rookie year. Edited September 15, 2021 by Bruffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Just now, Bruffalo said: What should we have done to mask the offensive line on Sunday that we didn't do? You seem really confident that you have the answer here. Rollouts, RB in the flat, extra blocker. We went empty sets most of the game when we knew Allen was struggling with pressure. Our OC is an idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I think it's fair to be concerned about Daboll and his play calling, but the idea that McDermott should take over is insane. When Graham points out that McD briefly took play calling away from Frazier he fails to mention a very important fact. McDermott was a DC before becoming a head coach and had experience calling defensive plays. He has no OC experience. That's a crucial difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, MJS said: That's silly. sure is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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