Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 from Sal Capaccio If you click on the top tweet (might need to right click and "open in new tab" on a computer) it should take you there. He's got a nifty diagram with moving circles to show what happened. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Tasker said today on One Bills Live that Hauck was not back far enough when he took the snap. He said punters are supposed to be farther back. When Hauck got the ball he also took two tiny steps and then two more. He was much too close to the line when he punted. It was schemed well by the Steelers, but if Hauck was back where he should have been, the Steelers would have had to lay out to block it. They didn't have to do that. 10 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I definitely felt like it was partly on the punter...not sure BoJo gets that blocked! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 With as much "dedicated" and well-above-average-paid special teams personnel as the Bills employ.........critical mistakes really aren't easy to excuse. 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkcoff1957 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 why, when he saw the defense coming - did he not run around the right end - according to the scheme it was wide open? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 I just watched again for the first time and there was definitely some responsibility on the punter- he was 4 yards closer to line of scrimmage than at snap when it was blocked. Blocking was suspect but Haack was certainly part of problem. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Jaquan Johnson and AJ Klein blew it. They are the culprits. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, jkeerie said: Tasker said today on One Bills Live that Hauck was not back far enough when he took the snap. He said punters are supposed to be farther back. When Hauck got the ball he also took two tiny steps and then two more. He was much too close to the line when he punted. It was schemed well by the Steelers, but if Hauck was back where he should have been, the Steelers would have had to lay out to block it. They didn't have to do that. Is this for real? Shouldn’t distance from the center be a standardized thing? Also, we discussed his Extra steps after the game— is that too his normal routine? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, jkeerie said: Tasker said today on One Bills Live that Hauck was not back far enough when he took the snap. He said punters are supposed to be farther back. When Hauck got the ball he also took two tiny steps and then two more. He was much too close to the line when he punted. It was schemed well by the Steelers, but if Hauck was back where he should have been, the Steelers would have had to lay out to block it. They didn't have to do that. I think he's right, only question is whether there was a legit reason for that which is not on the punter- dealing with wind, adjustment for Reid Ferguson low snaps, whatever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Jaquan Johnson and AJ Klein blew it. They are the culprits. I am pretty sure this is like 99% on Johnson. He has to be the line of defense of the guy rushing straight up the middle. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I am pretty sure this is like 99% on Johnson. He has to be the line of defense of the guy rushing straight up the middle. AJ was right there though, he might not be the main culprit, but he didn’t help matters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: from Sal Capaccio If you click on the top tweet (might need to right click and "open in new tab" on a computer) it should take you there. He's got a nifty diagram with moving circles to show what happened. Thanks for posting. Matakevich was interviewed and said this "scheme" that Pitt ran, was something they practiced against all week. So they had the looks to go over, but Tyler stopped short of whose fault it was...likely he didn't know either until reviewing the film. I'd surmise it was less on Haack and more on the protection breaking down. This is just a guess, but either Klein needing to step down or Johnson. Either way, very rare to see a blocked punt(and go for 6) in the NFL. But happening 2x within 3 years (Pats in 2019), is concerning to say the least. Alot of "learning moments" to take away from this game. Not what anyone wants, but there were "flat" (mental lapse) moments that should get fixed quickly. Like I've seen others say, can't open against the Jets each year and Pitt was a motivated/very good team coming into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 2 hours ago, StHustle said: I definitely felt like it was partly on the punter...not sure BoJo gets that blocked! Same here. Punter acted like he had time to have a coffee and donut back there. If there's no urgency going forward or to recognize pressure, he will have more punts blocked this season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Either way, very rare to see a blocked punt(and go for 6) in the NFL. But happening 2x within 3 years (Pats in 2019), is concerning to say the least. A nit, but Haack's previous blocked punt(s) were in 2018, so 3 years ago. One guy here pointed out that we got him to shank one last season vs. Miami but I'm not sure about that? He had a decent average of 43.6 yds on 5 punts. That was two short punts of 32 and 34 yds, one moderate punt of 42 yds, and two 55 yd punts (one of which McKenzie returned for a TD so.... Sounds like the blocked punt was a communication and/or execution failure on the blockers, compounded by the punter being too close to the line. Whether that was a bad practice on his part, or an appropriate adjustment made for wind or snapping issues, can't say. 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: With as much "dedicated" and well-above-average-paid special teams personnel as the Bills employ.........critical mistakes really aren't easy to excuse. When You're Right, You're Right. When much is given, much is expected!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, jkeerie said: Tasker said today on One Bills Live that Hauck was not back far enough when he took the snap. He said punters are supposed to be farther back. When Hauck got the ball he also took two tiny steps and then two more. He was much too close to the line when he punted. It was schemed well by the Steelers, but if Hauck was back where he should have been, the Steelers would have had to lay out to block it. They didn't have to do that. I knew it. Right after the play I told my wife it didn't look like he was back far enough. I found a video and he was 13 yards back. I thought punters usually were 15 yards back. I was going to see where the Rams or Bears punters lined up but they never punted again. Gonna watch where they line up tonight. I also found an article that said HaUck is a 3 step punter whereas Bojo is a 2 step punter. Would seem a 3 step punter should be further back. HaUck had 1 blocked in the last 4 years and Bojo had 2 in 3 years. That was the difference in the game right there. Edited September 13, 2021 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: I knew it. Right after the play I told my wife it didn't look like he was back far enough. I found a video and he was 13 yards back. I thought punters usually were 15 yards back. I was going to see where the Rams or Bears punters lined up but they never punted again. Gonna watch where they line up tonight. I also found an article that said HaUck is a 3 step punter whereas Bojo is a 2 step punter. Would seem a 3 step punter should be further back. HaUck had 1 blocked in the last 4 years and Bojo had 2 in 3 years. That was the difference in the game right there. Tasker said they're supposed to be 15 yds back so you are correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Tasker said they're supposed to be 15 yds back so you are correct. Thanks. Both the Raiders and Ravens punters are lining up 15 yards back. Edited September 14, 2021 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 5 hours ago, jkeerie said: Tasker said today on One Bills Live that Hauck was not back far enough when he took the snap. He said punters are supposed to be farther back. When Hauck got the ball he also took two tiny steps and then two more. He was much too close to the line when he punted. It was schemed well by the Steelers, but if Hauck was back where he should have been, the Steelers would have had to lay out to block it. They didn't have to do that. Haack also seemed to be moving slow and, yes, it looked like if he took another step he would’ve kicked it into the O-line 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 6 hours ago, jkeerie said: Tasker said today on One Bills Live that Hauck was not back far enough when he took the snap. He said punters are supposed to be farther back. When Hauck got the ball he also took two tiny steps and then two more. He was much too close to the line when he punted. It was schemed well by the Steelers, but if Hauck was back where he should have been, the Steelers would have had to lay out to block it. They didn't have to do that. Exactly, Haack was way too shallow and took 3 1/2 steps. That block was all on him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: With as much "dedicated" and well-above-average-paid special teams personnel as the Bills employ.........critical mistakes really aren't easy to excuse. Compare it to the other 31 teams. Give us the actual numbers. This kind of statement is pointless without a source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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